Lost by a few months to Q.E. II :sadness:
Wish you forever Simple, forever Naive
Do we not have any Jiang emojis here? What travesty!
Do we not have any Jiang emojis here? What travesty!
Bc Hexbear is too young, too simple, sometimes naive! :deeper-sadness:
The good:
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He basically continued the policy of reform and opening up of Deng Xiaoping, which bounced China's economy and created the Chinese Middle class we know today
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Due to the economy reform, China basically was able to further intergrate into the global capitalist system and China's entry into the IMF
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He was also the leader who oversaw the hangover of HK back to China
The bad:
- Liberalization that Deng did was peanuts compare to what Jiang did, which created the inequalities within China especially the inequality we have today between the rich Coast Region and the poor Western Region like xinjiang and Tibet (which helped with the radicalization of the independent movements in the region).
-The further liberalization crashed some of the heavy industries within China especially in the North of China (basically condemned the people in those regions). Some never recovered and some recovered recently with new economic incentive.
-Deng's turn the other cheeks policy in regards to corruption also amplified during Jiang's, hence why there is rampant corruption today in China.
-The disregard of development sector also created a lot of economic inefficiency in China especially with the real estate industry that produced subpar buldings in China in order to boost the GDP.
-Sacrificing the Environment to boost Economic developement.
-Regional development also created a more decentralized political atmosphere in China (some will argue that it was always this way) explaining why you have today's hoodfuckeries happening in China's Covid policy but also with normal policies.
-Created the Falungong
-In theory the term limit created by Deng's reign made Jiang the paramount leader for 2 terms, but in reality the CPC also function with a system of Elders importance where the previous leaders has a lot of political power. Hence why Jiang Zeming's Shanghai Clique selected Hu jintao and the latter is consider a extension of Jiang's rule.
Hence why Jiang Zeming’s Shanghai Clique selected Hu jintao and the latter is consider a extension of Jiang’s rule.
are you sure of that one? i was under the impression they became rival "factions" within the party, the shanghai clique being associated with jiang and the youth league with hu
one thing about jiang is that he was the one who let the bourgeoisie become party members, iirc at the time he said something along the lines of "entrepreneurs work, hence they're workers, so they deserve membership" or some shit like that lol
''one thing about jiang is that he was the one who let the bourgeoisie become party members, iirc at the time he said something along the lines of “entrepreneurs work, hence they’re workers, so they deserve membership” or some shit like that lol''
yup he said that, there is also an attribution of a quote that came during his reign: '' it is that time where the party clique threw the zhongshan suits for the business suits''
Hu came from the youth league, but the elder of the party has a lot to say in the picking of the successor hence also who is easier to groom. There is a quote that is associate to Hu that goes like: ''the past generation should let the current one decide'' which implied there is indeed a dynamic of grooming of the future leaders by the previous leaders
it is that time where the party clique threw the zhongshan suits for the business suits
didn't know that one, cool
which implied there is indeed a dynamic of grooming of the future leaders by the previous leaders
i see
to be fair, that tends to be the dynamic in every political institution, but it probably gets more pronounced within china's system
It is more pronounced because of the term limits. If you establish an arbitrary term limit, It would imply that there is a risk of rupture for long term political planning once the previous leader is out. Therefore, there is this system of the Elder imminence/influence.
I'm also not saying that no term limits is good either. There are drawbacks with a long term ruling leadership such as a stratification and a certain lack of flexibility within the party
TLDR there is no perfect ruling system, it's kind of asking what is better btw a parliamentary system and a presidential system. The key is to have some flexibilities to control the variables
Created the Falungong
Yo what’s up? I pass a New Tang Dynasty Television billboard every day on the busiest freeway in LA county, so I’ve had Falun Gong on the mind recently
Haha ok the statement is a little bit simplified. So during the 90s the cpc promoted a kind of a Chinese traditional culture revival which included things like ancient Chinese history, philosophy and religion.
The head of flg was a dude in the PLA and he saw a way to create his own form of qigong practice that plagiarized a lot of daoist/buddhist/folk religion ideas (he probably pull some strings to have more exposure in the Chinese population at that time)
In the 90s Falun gong was pretty popular as it is a way to promote culture but also healthy practice. The government (local one)actually sanctioned the flg (probably because there are some money involved).
However, flg gained so much momentum that the practitioners practice it in public spaces like the tian an men square. Government started to be very nervous (in general the cpc never really liked any gatherings of any sort). There is also the leader running scam telling the practitioners to abandon modern medical practice for Chinese medicine (ofc they sell their own products to the practitioners)
Government started to do crackdown on the practice and they outright ban it when a practionner decided to self immolate in the Tian an Men square.
The leader fled to the US and now live in a compound and basically the USA gives him a pension and also a lot of resources to start their own media sphere in the diaspora that is anti cpc.
Oh gotcha, so that initial traditional revival that led to FG was under Jiang?
Yup! Anecdotal thing: there is a novel that satirize that period called ''Please Don't Call Me Human 《千万别把我当人》'' by Wang Shuo also know as the father of ''hooligan literature''
If you want to read it tw for transphobia, homophobia, chauvinism
edit: i found a summary of the book for people who are interested https://trchfic.podbean.com/e/ep-2-wang-shuo-and-please-dont-call-me-human/
It’s basically the first nation revival movement in the 90s gone wrong
Carl Zha did an episode as a guest for a podcast about that particular event
it's been a while, i can't listen to the content because i'm at the office but I think it's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWuSMP9cwjE&ab_channel=DecolonizedBuffaloPodcast
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Leukemia. :sadness: https://english.news.cn/20221130/20584fc586bd4f258e3876f35041934e/c.html
:fidel-salute:
Here is a cool all picture of him with Fidel.
https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/rsFgQBgAJs.jpg
:sadness-abysmal:
He saw the creation of the chinese republic, ww2, the civil-war, mao's era, deng's era and China becoming a world superpower. :fidel-salute-big:
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Hong Kong = Liberated
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The Queen = Dead
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The UK = Broken
:fidel-salute:
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I keep up with a handful of borderline-qanon liberal china watchers and a few of them have unironically claimed the death of this 96 year old man as a political hit.
Jiang had to leave in the later half of a parade last year because the dude legit looks like he was passing out.
He was not even present at the Congress some weeks ago
He’s talking jovially with Mike Wallace in the afterlife right now :china:
