Former Chinese leader Jiang Zemin dies aged 96
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China's former leader Jiang Zemin, who came to power after the Tiananmen Square protests, has died at 96 - state media say.

Lost by a few months to Q.E. II :sadness:

Wish you forever Simple, forever Naive

Do we not have any Jiang emojis here? What travesty!

  • s0ykaf [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hence why Jiang Zeming’s Shanghai Clique selected Hu jintao and the latter is consider a extension of Jiang’s rule.

    are you sure of that one? i was under the impression they became rival "factions" within the party, the shanghai clique being associated with jiang and the youth league with hu

    one thing about jiang is that he was the one who let the bourgeoisie become party members, iirc at the time he said something along the lines of "entrepreneurs work, hence they're workers, so they deserve membership" or some shit like that lol

    • Fishroot [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      ''one thing about jiang is that he was the one who let the bourgeoisie become party members, iirc at the time he said something along the lines of “entrepreneurs work, hence they’re workers, so they deserve membership” or some shit like that lol''

      yup he said that, there is also an attribution of a quote that came during his reign: '' it is that time where the party clique threw the zhongshan suits for the business suits''

      Hu came from the youth league, but the elder of the party has a lot to say in the picking of the successor hence also who is easier to groom. There is a quote that is associate to Hu that goes like: ''the past generation should let the current one decide'' which implied there is indeed a dynamic of grooming of the future leaders by the previous leaders

      • s0ykaf [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        it is that time where the party clique threw the zhongshan suits for the business suits

        didn't know that one, cool

        which implied there is indeed a dynamic of grooming of the future leaders by the previous leaders

        i see

        to be fair, that tends to be the dynamic in every political institution, but it probably gets more pronounced within china's system

        • Fishroot [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          It is more pronounced because of the term limits. If you establish an arbitrary term limit, It would imply that there is a risk of rupture for long term political planning once the previous leader is out. Therefore, there is this system of the Elder imminence/influence.

          I'm also not saying that no term limits is good either. There are drawbacks with a long term ruling leadership such as a stratification and a certain lack of flexibility within the party

          TLDR there is no perfect ruling system, it's kind of asking what is better btw a parliamentary system and a presidential system. The key is to have some flexibilities to control the variables