I can't read Chinese and am only seeing things peep out on twitter last night and this morning
Is any official stance changing?
Is this supposedely in response to the protests? Those didn't seem for lack of a better word.....real. Or at least natively organic.
They'll reconsider.💁♂️🤞
They won’t. Xi and top officials are starting to travel overseas, their public sees the World Cup happening, and Sun Chunlan has said Omicron is less pathogenic.
Zero covid has always been unsustainable in the long term. They’re gearing up for a mass vaccination drive of the elderly this December. China’s response to covid has always been successful.
Lmao, at long term. It's been 3 years. And the western world is vaxxing people and then throwing them into the long covid/excess morbidity woodchipper. Even if the western left pulls their head out of their ass and makes a difference on the west's covid strategy in the next few years, the amount of damage that will be done will likely be catastrophic to humanity. Frankly, China's zero covid is our last hope.
Last hope at what? Eliminating Covid? Even with China’s Covid measures they’ve been struggling to contain it. Early on all top disease experts have said Covid will become endemic. This isn’t China throwing up their hands and giving up. They know this disease is one of the most infectious ever and they’re taking intelligent, slow steps to live with it.
There's no living with a virus that kills humanity's ability to maintain herd immunity.
I’m confused. What do you think the zero Covid policy is?
My understanding is that it’s an attempt to keep cases to a minimum while a vaccine we would consider “real” is developed, rather than keeping cases to an absolute minimum indefinitely with no long term strategy.
You are aware long covid is covid, right? What we think of as covid is just the initial infection. It then hides in your organs eating away at your microcirculatory system doing damage across your body for months. Most of us are now immunocompromised because of it. A vaccine that doesn't prevent that, which ours for the most part do not is not what I would consider a "real" vaccine.
I wasn’t aware anyone invoked that distinction.
When I said a “real” vaccine I meant one that doesn’t need a booster every three months. Part of the long Covid strategy is developing a vaccine with uhh I think the language is long term efficacy.
Chinas vaccines, and I’m not an expert on this, aren’t mRNA because they decided it wasn’t safe process or effective without lots more shots. There’s also the cost of licensing the extant mRNA vaccines and letting the countries’ health become dependent on another nation.
E: I mean zero Covid. Just saw that it was autocorrecting to long Covid.
Long covid is absolutely being treated as a side effect of covid around here.🤷♂️
Honestly, I don't care one way or the other about the type the vaccines are, but the outcome of their use. And currently we have a virus that's doing serious damage to humanity's herd immunity and life expectancy with zero covid being the only stop gap. Anything that isn't addressing that is fanciful and frankly :LIB: in my eyes.
You never answered my question. Last hope at what?
A world that's more than a dystopic plague ridden hellworld of brain damaged humans that make the leaded gasoline years seem like the Renaissance.
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Because of the implication?