The datasets used in Ai generators are all taken from uncredited artists and photographers, many of which want their images removed from the datasets. Some datasets are even specifically trained on ~30-50 images from a single artist specifically to generate images that look like they were produced by that specific artist.
Using a tool that cannot function without those datasets in order to profit from unpaid and uncredited labor is exploitational to me.
I listed a bunch of varying examples because they're all transformative in some way but still uses that exploitational tool. I'm not saying they're all exploitational, just that because of the nature of the tool that it feels difficult for me to discern where a line can be drawn.
You shouldn't care about ip when its a multi-trillion dollar media conglomerate hoarding a thousand characters and stories.
But when a person who makes art for a living can have the products of their labor and skill taken by a machine and churned out into millions of mass produced images, it can ruin their lively hood.
Ai doesnt trawl disney films to make its art, it collects data from art sites where individual artists post their personal work.
This isn't about IP. This is stealing someone's soul and distilling it in to a machine so you can steal not just a single piece of work, but all of their skill and artistry and potential, forever. This is a crime the likes of which has not previously existed.
No. They have your skill and artistry and potential. And they can exploit them as much as they want, in whatever way they want, for eternity, for free.
Why would anyone hire you? Why would anyone pay you for your labor? They don't need you anymore. They've stolen all the things that made you special. You're redundant now. They've found a way to reduce labor costs to 0, permanently.
We all knew that eventually the techbros would use automation to replace labor entirely, then massacre everyone they didn't need until all that is left in the world is machines and the tiny handful of hyper-capitalists who control them. This is just one more step towards that future.
meh. we should all be in favor of eroding IP laws anyway I find it really hard to care about this one except for the specific cases of corporations using these tools instead of paying workers.
for my unskilled self and that disabled commenter these are great and fuck your copyright.
Cool. Hold on to that thought when disabled artists start dying because a techbro with a math problem stole their entire creative output and destroyed their only source of income in the process.
work-a-day artists are oppressed proles just like the rest of us and their jobs getting usurped and destroyed by capital has little to do with the specific "muh IP rights" people are doing when this topic comes up, and I guess I don't care what kind of labor these folks are doing, they're getting exploited the whether they're doing art as a profession or any uncreative labor.
Marx failed to consider the ability to rob workers of their future labor and creative potential by basically creating a digital clone of them and making it work for 10,000 years.
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The datasets used in Ai generators are all taken from uncredited artists and photographers, many of which want their images removed from the datasets. Some datasets are even specifically trained on ~30-50 images from a single artist specifically to generate images that look like they were produced by that specific artist.
Using a tool that cannot function without those datasets in order to profit from unpaid and uncredited labor is exploitational to me.
I listed a bunch of varying examples because they're all transformative in some way but still uses that exploitational tool. I'm not saying they're all exploitational, just that because of the nature of the tool that it feels difficult for me to discern where a line can be drawn.
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You shouldn't care about ip when its a multi-trillion dollar media conglomerate hoarding a thousand characters and stories.
But when a person who makes art for a living can have the products of their labor and skill taken by a machine and churned out into millions of mass produced images, it can ruin their lively hood.
Ai doesnt trawl disney films to make its art, it collects data from art sites where individual artists post their personal work.
This isn't about IP. This is stealing someone's soul and distilling it in to a machine so you can steal not just a single piece of work, but all of their skill and artistry and potential, forever. This is a crime the likes of which has not previously existed.
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No. They have your skill and artistry and potential. And they can exploit them as much as they want, in whatever way they want, for eternity, for free.
Why would anyone hire you? Why would anyone pay you for your labor? They don't need you anymore. They've stolen all the things that made you special. You're redundant now. They've found a way to reduce labor costs to 0, permanently.
We all knew that eventually the techbros would use automation to replace labor entirely, then massacre everyone they didn't need until all that is left in the world is machines and the tiny handful of hyper-capitalists who control them. This is just one more step towards that future.
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All of the problems with AI are problems with capital. Capital controls all the AI. AI is now the means of production and we don't own it.
If artists didn't need to create to survive this wouldn't be a problem. But they do, so it is.
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The curtains are not, in fact, blue. "Soul" is a metaphor.
Shut the fuck up about sexual violence you piece of shit
I will edit it to remove the term. It was a poor choice of words on my part. Thank you for calling me out.
Thanks
:jesse-wtf: absolutely deranged
meh. we should all be in favor of eroding IP laws anyway I find it really hard to care about this one except for the specific cases of corporations using these tools instead of paying workers.
for my unskilled self and that disabled commenter these are great and fuck your copyright.
Cool. Hold on to that thought when disabled artists start dying because a techbro with a math problem stole their entire creative output and destroyed their only source of income in the process.
work-a-day artists are oppressed proles just like the rest of us and their jobs getting usurped and destroyed by capital has little to do with the specific "muh IP rights" people are doing when this topic comes up, and I guess I don't care what kind of labor these folks are doing, they're getting exploited the whether they're doing art as a profession or any uncreative labor.
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Marx failed to consider the ability to rob workers of their future labor and creative potential by basically creating a digital clone of them and making it work for 10,000 years.
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