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Tag places you've been to.

I got Sacramento, Tuscan, and New York. That's Kochi, Kuwana, and Tokyo.

The important thing to understand here is the sheer scale of destruction suffered by the peoples of Asia at the blood soaked hands of America.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      We really gonna have an argument over whether or not violence against the working class and violence against the bourgeois state are the :same-picture: or not?

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        German cities got fucked up pretty bad during the war too, but I never see anyone here blame anyone for that but the Nazis.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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          The Germans didn't get the "asiatic hordes" treatment where anything short of genocide is unacceptable

          • Dolores [love/loves]
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            germany seems to have been bombed pretty consummately and had 4 million more homeless afterward. with almost equal prewar populations and generally (but varying) more german civilian deaths claimed as well. ~2+ mil vs . ~.8-1.2

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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              The stats from the article says the following

              The war had destroyed 4.8 million housing units. As a result, 13 million Germans were homeless. And there was 400 million cubic meters (14 billion cubic feet) of rubble to clear.

              The degree of destruction varied regionally. In East Germany, 9.4 percent of pre-war housing was destroyed. In West Germany, the figure was 18.5 percent. At state level, the distinction is even starker: in Thuringia, only 3 percent of houses were destroyed. In North Rhine-Westphalia, it was close to 25 percent—and even more in the industrial heartland of the state.

              Of the 54 largest cities (>100,000 inhabitants) in Germany, only four survived without significant damage: Lübeck, Wiesbaden, Halle and Erfurt. Worst hit was Würzburg (75 percent destroyed), followed by Dessau, Kassel, Mainz and Hamburg.

              Over 70 percent of the largest cities had their urban core destroyed. Worst cases: Dresden, Cologne, Essen, Dortmund, Hanover, Nuremberg, Chemnitz.

              Of the 151 medium-sized cities (25,000-100,000), about a third lost at least 20 percent of their housing stock. In Bavaria, Thuringia and Saxony, most medium-sized cities managed to make it through the war with little or no damage.

              The German bombing campaign focused primarily on decapitation of the nazi german industrial capacity through indiscriminate bombings of industrial manufacturing centers with civilian targets being acceptable collateral damage.

              In the Japanese bombing campaign, and every subsequent bombing Campaign in Asia, civilians centers were the targets of indiscriminate bombings alongside industrial manufacturing centers.

              There is a clear racially-motivated difference of levels of mass slaughter perpetuated by the western powers during the war.

              Side note: it's actually pretty interesting article you shared since it quietly pointed out that the Soviet side of the rush to Berlin was remarkably less destructive than the westerner side.

              • Dolores [love/loves]
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                im not sure what's so revealing about these highlights unless you have the same data for japan and its worse.

                being that 9 million japanese and 14 million germans were rendered homeless i would not make an assumption that the bombing of germany was any more 'discriminate' in its targetting of industrial areas over civilian ones.

                • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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                  According to official Army Air Forces statistics, in five months of incendiary attacks on Japan, the B–29s killed 310,000 Japanese, injured 412,000 others, and left 9.2 million people homeless. The U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey’s estimate of homeless Japanese was even higher: 15 million.

                  Daniel L. Haulman, “Firebombing Air Raids on Cities at Night, Air Power History, Vol. 65, No. 4 (Winter 2018), 41.

                  Who in turn cites

                  Max Hastings, "Retribution: The Battle for Japan, 1944-1945", New York, NY: Alfred A. Knopf, 2008. pp. 317-318.

                  Which as I'm sure you can guess I don't have in my hands right now so you'll have to forgive me for being unable to directly dig through that books citation to another book's citation all the way to the primary source.

                  Here's another source from the British Imperial war museum that corroborates similar numbers

                  And some more corroborating numbers here from a random Tampa Bay article examining the genocidal firebombings of Japan under the section titled "fighting to be remembered" cw: discriptions of crimes and human suffering.

                  • Dolores [love/loves]
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                    another government department disputing the figure is pretty significant. and would give more water for an exceptional treatment of japan.

                    i still'd like more robust figures but we're not exactly writing dissertations. also and especially for the german numbers, if their homeless got padded by population expulsions, what territory "germany" constitutes etc.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      more like dunking on fascist amerikkka putting imperialist japan "in its place" with an inhuman firebombing campaign. i can hate the us and japan and also what the former did to the latter. i got room.

    • RoabeArt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It *is * possible to hate a country for the imperialistic actions of its government while also condemning violent attacks on its people by a foreign power.