Jokes aside it is interesting how you can be rewarded with essentialy free other people's money in the neolib finical capitalist hellscape but the second it becomes apparent your imagined tomarrow is vaporware it drys up faster then a puddle in Las Vegas. :stonks-down: What seems to be qualitatively diffrent post 08 is how leveraged it seems like a house of cards built on a swamp in a earth quake zone.