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    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Maybe "Post-American Left"? And by "American Left" I mean "Still do genocide, but let's means-test it after we run it through our focus groups!"

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Eh... That's just bog-standard Clintonian liberalism. 'Post-left' is usually a specific philosophical or analysis term that was applied to "philosophers" like Nick Land. I mean you could call it 'Post-Modern', but it's less about the dissolving of modern narratives of progress, and more about dissolving everything, including class.

        Like, Marx and Engels saw capitalism as dissolving and discarding social structures, both old and new, but clarifying the relationship between the proletarian and the bourgeoisie as the primary mover of history. Post-left analysis sees capitalism as even dissolving that class relationship (usually by ignoring imperialism and just focusing on first world labor relations, generally by discarding basic Leninist analysis) with many seeing the primary contradiction between other forces (usually between AI/robots and humans). Often this wraps it's way towards reactionary beliefs and facism.

        Matt isn't generally a 'Post Leftist' because he still doesn't reject class analysis or even class conflict being the primary mover of history, he just thinks more in terms of actual material historical American trends than most modern thinkers (i.e. if communism comes to America it will as a spiritual revival) to the degree he has consistent analysis.

        • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Of course. You and I both know that. I just want to decipher what they could have possibly meant here. Maybe they also know, and are trying to discredit our large dry son? Propaganda is a real fuck.

          • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            Ah, fair enough!

            We'd have to look into the related accounts to decipher it, which, gonna be honest, I can't be bothered to do.