This doesn't make any sense. What societal conditions lead to rape?
Part of the thing that is so humiliating is that theyre not that dangerous
This is also pretty messed up to say. Who are you to say a rapist isn't that dangerous?
they can do what they want to do because other people who youre surrounded by are cool with what they’re doing in a very real sense, despite their theoretical moral objections to rape
I guess there are some scenarios where a SA survivor is surrounded be people that let it happen, but that's just not the reality for all survivors. They are genuinely in danger and they are often alone.
I'm 100% in agreement that serial rapists should not be around society.
This doesn’t make any sense. What societal conditions lead to rape?
All the unjust hierarchies?
This is also pretty messed up to say. Who are you to say a rapist isn’t that dangerous?
Someone who is operating based on personal experience and a large sample size. I am making generalizations. The uncertainty of the amount of danger present and how that affects people we can get into if you want
I guess there are some scenarios where a SA survivor is surrounded be people that let it happen, but that’s just not the reality for all survivors. They are genuinely in danger and they are often alone.
You are missing my point. Rape culture, or whatever you want to call it, creates the space for rapists to operate in. Rape culture isn't just some amorphous blob in the cosmos. It is also very local, and very concrete, and can be fought.
It can be fought, but that doesn't mean rape will completely stop. I'm too pessimistic to believe that. In the (hopefully) rare situations in the future where a person does it more than once, they need to be stopped from interacting with society at a certain point.
It can be fought, but that doesn’t mean rape will completely stop.
I agree, I just think reducing the power structures that enable rape on a mass scale is more productive than punishing individuals and that prisons have repeatedly failed as a rehabilitative institution.
You can't be stopped from interacting with society except through dying. Prisons still exist within society. Prison rape happens ridiculously frequently.
I agree that it's more productive and should be the immediate focus, but in specific circumstances it's not rehabilitation that's failing someone. We're not even attempting rehabilitation now though, so that will always be important to implement.
This doesn't make any sense. What societal conditions lead to rape?
This is also pretty messed up to say. Who are you to say a rapist isn't that dangerous?
I guess there are some scenarios where a SA survivor is surrounded be people that let it happen, but that's just not the reality for all survivors. They are genuinely in danger and they are often alone.
I'm 100% in agreement that serial rapists should not be around society.
All the unjust hierarchies?
Someone who is operating based on personal experience and a large sample size. I am making generalizations. The uncertainty of the amount of danger present and how that affects people we can get into if you want
You are missing my point. Rape culture, or whatever you want to call it, creates the space for rapists to operate in. Rape culture isn't just some amorphous blob in the cosmos. It is also very local, and very concrete, and can be fought.
It can be fought, but that doesn't mean rape will completely stop. I'm too pessimistic to believe that. In the (hopefully) rare situations in the future where a person does it more than once, they need to be stopped from interacting with society at a certain point.
I agree, I just think reducing the power structures that enable rape on a mass scale is more productive than punishing individuals and that prisons have repeatedly failed as a rehabilitative institution.
You can't be stopped from interacting with society except through dying. Prisons still exist within society. Prison rape happens ridiculously frequently.
I agree that it's more productive and should be the immediate focus, but in specific circumstances it's not rehabilitation that's failing someone. We're not even attempting rehabilitation now though, so that will always be important to implement.