https://nitter.net/petergyang/status/1607443647859154946

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That doesn't stop some folks, including on Hexbear, pulling the reductionist take of "and so are we, especially you if you disagree." Something something meat computers something something meatspace get schwifty :galaxy-brain:

    Even yesterday I was called an "NPC" here because I didn't like one not-an-alt wrecker's take. Such reductionist cognitohazards are everywhere and they generally benefit the ruling class by demoralizing and dividing the rest of us. :capitalist-laugh:

    • RION [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      This post is a great example of a place where AI cannot match humans, and won't be able to for a very long time or maybe ever. Computers completely shit the bed on interpreting ambiguous text from context clues (more on that here. If the problem were submitted in proper formula format to something like Wolfram alpha it would solve it no problem, but asking it conversationally gives results like this.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        Even if/when computers start successfully and reliably understanding ambiguous text from context clues, I contend that what I said would still stand. There will be reductionists that want so very badly to declare the chatbot or other treat dispenser "true" intelligence in a way that belittles human intelligence at the same time. Instead of accepting the additional hurdles that such a machine would need to do to get there (plausible, with sufficient time, I believe), it's easier for them to denigrate human intelligence to try to rhetorically pull it down to the chatbot's level, now, for whatever reason. :lea-why:

        • RION [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          For sure. The turing test and its consequences :thonk-cri:

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Finding or making people that are more credulous and gullible is, technically, a way to make a machine more easily pass that test. :think-about-it:

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Even yesterday I was called an “NPC” here because I didn’t like one not-an-alt wrecker’s take.

      I always assumed you were the DM.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Not always, but DMs do have to play the part of every NPC the party encounter. :edgeworth-shrug:

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Something something meat computers

      That take is always extra frustrating because human brains are not computers. In fact we still have absolutely no idea what human consciousness fundamentally is.

    • fratsarerats [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      That doesn’t stop some folks, including on Hexbear, pulling the reductionist take of “and so are we, especially you if you disagree.” Something something meat computers something something meatspace get schwifty

      There was one meatspace bro on here who said that because of "meditation" that they agreed that we were basically giant meatballs or something like that. Honestly sounded like it came straight out of the Sam Harris subr*ddit...