I want to state up first I get it, I'm on the right side, most of these men are awful, and every man-o-sphere influence is awful. Andrew Tate belongs in a 6 foot deep hole, or a hole in the back of his head. Joe Rogan should be sent to the Hague.

But when dudes complain, even about genuine issues, we have a tendency to just attack them for it. If a guy complains that being short can kinda suck (and it can. More so than just getting girls, it can hurt your career and everything.) People, even leftists, tend to just call them a sad manlet or something. Same thing with dudes complaining they can't get a girlfriend, are they not alienated under capitalism? I'm not saying we have to coddle the incels, but we could do better at presenting a future, a better one, maybe?

The discourse about height, and dick size, are both stupid but here (in this safe space) can I admit that there's a point to both? They affect people, it's a real thing.

And back to the Joe Rogan's, I feel bad that men and boys get sucked into that. I have some pity for them, these desperate losers.

Anyways, Im sure I'm going to think this is dumb, but I just can't help but feel like there's a gigantic community of extremely disaffected people that while I mostly loathe, I also really feel bad for. I don't think it would've taken much to push me there, I grew up in a good environment with some good role models, but without that, left to the wolves, I'm as susceptible to the grifters as everyone is.

  • supdog [e/em/eir,ey/em]
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    2 years ago

    Contralib made at least one good 8 hour or so video essay about this. The fact is that it's NOT easy to be a man, things like dating are hard on guys these days.

    I have to trust that you're not an mra because you're going to be making a lot of the same points up to a point.

    A lot of this is trust. Please all of hexbear go off on how it's not easy to be a guy these days because I trust you to have these convos.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I mean functionally the reason people get sucked into fascism is because they point out real problems that exist, so theres going to be some overlap. Luckily We have hexbear and we should all have a baseline level of trust that someone here is, you know, a comrade.