I love EDM, and most people in most crowds are generally fine, but there's a comradery I've come to expect that just doesn't seem to exist at EDM shows in my experience. I've had multiple people make an effort at metal shows to ensure my fairly short partner had a clear view of the stage no matter where we were with zero prompting, and the only crowd I've ever been legitimately forced to leave was a Carpenter Brut show because everybody there needed to be as close to the stage as possible and didn't care in the slightest that they showed up half an hour after the set started. It's just a very different vibe, and the EDM crowd is a lot more atomized and individualist.
the edm crowd seems younger to me but maybe that's anecdotal and i wonder if that might account for the increased feeling of atomization. but i'm disappointed to hear that about brut, he's one of my favs and i've never had a chance to see him but i had a great time at a perturbator show which is a very similar musical vibe. i've also been to festivals with anywhere from 40,000 to 400,000 people and seen the trashiest club music to really sophisticated snobby electronic shit and i've had wonderful encounters there at most events. but i will also say i've run into some ignorant people there too, but i mean that's just life, it happens at the grocery store too. but my lasting impression was people asking me if i needed anything, if they intruding on my space etc. the worst edm show i ever went to was a house show in a parking lot and yeah that crowd was trash but that one was of many shows. i've had mixed experiences at metal shows too. i WILL say though that of course the values espoused by certain artists probably attract certain people. there are really hyper masculine metal bands with toxic bases and there are really hedonist/individualist edm artists with toxic fan bases too.
idk, the op just feels like 'i don't like raves' which is fine but every show has it's cool people and assholes and in my experience when you show up with a good attitude i feel that most people try to meet you there. if someone goes to a rave and stand in a corner i'm not surprised they had a shitty time. :shrug-outta-hecks: just seems pointlessly divisive to me. i'd rather call out the class divide instead of some weird cultural genre divide. but it is anecdotally true that certain classes are attracted to different kinds of music i guess. idk, whatever. who cares really lmao.
I love EDM, and most people in most crowds are generally fine, but there's a comradery I've come to expect that just doesn't seem to exist at EDM shows in my experience. I've had multiple people make an effort at metal shows to ensure my fairly short partner had a clear view of the stage no matter where we were with zero prompting, and the only crowd I've ever been legitimately forced to leave was a Carpenter Brut show because everybody there needed to be as close to the stage as possible and didn't care in the slightest that they showed up half an hour after the set started. It's just a very different vibe, and the EDM crowd is a lot more atomized and individualist.
the edm crowd seems younger to me but maybe that's anecdotal and i wonder if that might account for the increased feeling of atomization. but i'm disappointed to hear that about brut, he's one of my favs and i've never had a chance to see him but i had a great time at a perturbator show which is a very similar musical vibe. i've also been to festivals with anywhere from 40,000 to 400,000 people and seen the trashiest club music to really sophisticated snobby electronic shit and i've had wonderful encounters there at most events. but i will also say i've run into some ignorant people there too, but i mean that's just life, it happens at the grocery store too. but my lasting impression was people asking me if i needed anything, if they intruding on my space etc. the worst edm show i ever went to was a house show in a parking lot and yeah that crowd was trash but that one was of many shows. i've had mixed experiences at metal shows too. i WILL say though that of course the values espoused by certain artists probably attract certain people. there are really hyper masculine metal bands with toxic bases and there are really hedonist/individualist edm artists with toxic fan bases too.
idk, the op just feels like 'i don't like raves' which is fine but every show has it's cool people and assholes and in my experience when you show up with a good attitude i feel that most people try to meet you there. if someone goes to a rave and stand in a corner i'm not surprised they had a shitty time. :shrug-outta-hecks: just seems pointlessly divisive to me. i'd rather call out the class divide instead of some weird cultural genre divide. but it is anecdotally true that certain classes are attracted to different kinds of music i guess. idk, whatever. who cares really lmao.