American Psycho is excellent though, if someone walks out of that film thinking Bateman is a cool guy then there's probably not much hope for them

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    Looking at the back and forth on this has me 100% convinced that it is not on the author to get across that it is satire at all because you can put fucking spotlights and sparklers on it and the director can freeze-frame it to explain exactly what is happening and that it is satirical and some people will still not fucking get it.

    Case in point: contemporary reviews of Starship Troopers written by professional film critics

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          • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Again them saying it's satire when it obviously isn't is kind of the exact opposite of the issue I addressed

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              • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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                That's kind of what I was getting at. The nature of media is such that it's impossible for 100% of the author's intended message to reach 100% of the intended audience, so splitting hairs over signaling isn't very productive. Some people saw the hundreds of thousands killed by Arachnids as acceptable losses and Doogy Howzer showing up in an SS uniform to take the Brain Bug off for Mengele experiments and thought "wow this is so cool literally me :so-true: "

                If satire is well-crafted, it will get the point across appropriately. If it doesn't then that's not some severe moral failing. It's more shitty writing than anything else, and piss-poor communication.

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          • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Million Dollar Extreme is :walking-dead:

            Alex Jones may? be toast.

            Fox News :inshallah-script:

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      some people will still not fucking get it

      At some level, its entirely deliberate. The "not getting it" folks fixate on the fantastic element of the film and deliberately neglect or ignore the consequences of indulgence in fantasy.

      This isn't an accident, its a conscious decision to propagandize certain angles of the film.

      And it isn't as though movies don't exist that are even more explicit and bald faced and nakedly critical. But you're not going to see a bunch of dude-bros :soypoint-1: over Revolutionary Road or Marriage Story.

      Again, anything that doesn't endorse their narrative is either derided or excluded in the conversation.