Three-Body Problem TV Series (By Tencent, CCTV) is going to release its first episode today! (2023/1/15)The Three-Body Problem (Chinese: 三体; lit. 'Three-Body...
The anime has been very Not Great so far (I'm still gonna finish it) but this looks fantastic.
Side note: I was surprised that the word for logic in Chinese wasn't 論理／论理 like it is in Japanese and Korean, and apparently it's literally a phonetic loanword from English logic coined by a Chinese translator probably sometime in the mid-to-late 18th century. A lot of technical terms in the East Asian languages (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese) are ultimately Japanese coinages from this period which have been seamlessly imported, and most of those are calques (following the meaning of the components of a word but not the sound) using Chinese characters, so it's interesting for me to see a word that's both not-Japanese and is phonetically rather than semantically formed. Also interesting that the Chinese (or at least, some influential translator) felt they needed to distinguish between Western logic and traditional Chinese notions of logic whereas the Japanese were content to stick with the Chinese word. Maybe the layer of abstraction (borrowing from Chinese) made the word feel less weighed down by history for the Japanese.
using loanwords is pretty common during the period of the ''venacularization'' of Chinese. In the first republic, a lot of intellectuals were anti-chinese culture because it is archaic, there were ideas of purging the Chinese writing system and go full romanization (kind of like in Vietnam) so i guess the whole loan words thing is a vestige of this (which is pretty common the in mainland, you can see that there were series of Chinese modernization especially in the simplification of characters that follows different rule compared to let's say the modernization done by ROC, Koreas or Japan)
The end of Death's End shows that Xin's/humanity's more empathic stance towards other civilizations becomes a sort of new normal. Like the Dark Forest is still kinda in effect, but the chain of suspicion is vastly reduced because civilizations are at least willing to communicate "safe"/non-location information with each other. The new universe is a far better place without the Luo Jis and the Thomas Wades (or the Singers*) of the old universe.
But, the naming thing did lead to that wonderful moment in Death's End where
Death's End, the passing of the sword
Luo Ji passes the sword and immediately gets arrested and there was that line that was like "humankind was not grateful to Luo Ji, they chose Cheng Xin" which in the Chinese apparently can also be read as "humankind did not appreciate logic, it chose to fulfill their hearts." which I think is some neat wordplay.
*I haven't read Redemption of Time you can't make me read Redemption of Time.
we don't talk about Redemption of Time
we don't talk about Redemption of Time
we don't talk about Redemption of Time
we don't talk about Redemption of Time
we don't talk about Redemption of Time
For me the whole serie reads a little bit like cold war paranoia which I believe is the whole point.
There was an article about wargaming and zero sum game theory during the cold war where they asked a bunch of technicians STEMS people to solve the problem nuclear menace. The conclusion of the study is that there is a need of Humanities backgrounds for subjects touching geopolitics and diplomacy
Main dude character: 罗辑，Luo Ji. His name is a pun of 逻辑, or "Logic".
Main lady character: 程心， Cheng Xin. A pun on 成心, "From the heart."
Yeah.
:bruh:
Destroyed by facts and Luo Ji.
Side note: I was surprised that the word for logic in Chinese wasn't 論理／论理 like it is in Japanese and Korean, and apparently it's literally a phonetic loanword from English logic coined by a Chinese translator probably sometime in the mid-to-late 18th century. A lot of technical terms in the East Asian languages (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese) are ultimately Japanese coinages from this period which have been seamlessly imported, and most of those are calques (following the meaning of the components of a word but not the sound) using Chinese characters, so it's interesting for me to see a word that's both not-Japanese and is phonetically rather than semantically formed. Also interesting that the Chinese (or at least, some influential translator) felt they needed to distinguish between Western logic and traditional Chinese notions of logic whereas the Japanese were content to stick with the Chinese word. Maybe the layer of abstraction (borrowing from Chinese) made the word feel less weighed down by history for the Japanese.
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using loanwords is pretty common during the period of the ''venacularization'' of Chinese. In the first republic, a lot of intellectuals were anti-chinese culture because it is archaic, there were ideas of purging the Chinese writing system and go full romanization (kind of like in Vietnam) so i guess the whole loan words thing is a vestige of this (which is pretty common the in mainland, you can see that there were series of Chinese modernization especially in the simplification of characters that follows different rule compared to let's say the modernization done by ROC, Koreas or Japan)
yeah that part is kind of weird , but I don't think the serie is really going with the ''logic'' prevails in the end but that just me
I agree,
Death's End, Ending
The end of Death's End shows that Xin's/humanity's more empathic stance towards other civilizations becomes a sort of new normal. Like the Dark Forest is still kinda in effect, but the chain of suspicion is vastly reduced because civilizations are at least willing to communicate "safe"/non-location information with each other. The new universe is a far better place without the Luo Jis and the Thomas Wades (or the Singers*) of the old universe.
But, the naming thing did lead to that wonderful moment in Death's End where
Death's End, the passing of the sword
Luo Ji passes the sword and immediately gets arrested and there was that line that was like "humankind was not grateful to Luo Ji, they chose Cheng Xin" which in the Chinese apparently can also be read as "humankind did not appreciate logic, it chose to fulfill their hearts." which I think is some neat wordplay.
*I haven't read Redemption of Time you can't make me read Redemption of Time.
we don't talk about Redemption of Time we don't talk about Redemption of Time we don't talk about Redemption of Time we don't talk about Redemption of Time we don't talk about Redemption of Time
For me the whole serie reads a little bit like cold war paranoia which I believe is the whole point.
There was an article about wargaming and zero sum game theory during the cold war where they asked a bunch of technicians STEMS people to solve the problem nuclear menace. The conclusion of the study is that there is a need of Humanities backgrounds for subjects touching geopolitics and diplomacy