I asked a direct question: what is an achievement in terms of civil rights or social progress.
What’s more that was obviously in the context of western liberal democracy anyway.
You point to a system in China that hasn’t really achieved any system change either and then go on to say some rant about me having a knee jerk reaction.
All that after saying I’m arguing in bad faith.
Go fuck yourself or give me an example of system change, preferably one in the context of western liberal democracy since that’s clearly the relevant context but if you can’t do that I’ll also take an example from China because I’m not a bad faith douche bag and I’ll let you move the goal posts if that helps you.
Eat my entire ass. I very explicitly rejected the idea that liberal electoralism is the only possible kind and gave a reason why we should not default to capitalist societies as the sole or default carriers of the democratic tradition.
While we’re on the subject. good faith approach: hey what do you mean by electoralism here?
Bad faith: your aggro bullshit
EDIT: I’m being aggro as well. My apologies, I’ll take a step back and cool off
While you take time to cool off try and think of ONE EXAMPLE
All you’re doing is pontificating. I’m asking for an example. A concrete example. You’re not giving me one, you’re just sounding off, accusing me of shit, and being an ass.
I asked a direct question: what is an achievement in terms of civil rights or social progress.
What’s more that was obviously in the context of western liberal democracy anyway.
You point to a system in China that hasn’t really achieved any system change either and then go on to say some rant about me having a knee jerk reaction.
All that after saying I’m arguing in bad faith.
Go fuck yourself or give me an example of system change, preferably one in the context of western liberal democracy since that’s clearly the relevant context but if you can’t do that I’ll also take an example from China because I’m not a bad faith douche bag and I’ll let you move the goal posts if that helps you.
Eat my entire ass. I very explicitly rejected the idea that liberal electoralism is the only possible kind and gave a reason why we should not default to capitalist societies as the sole or default carriers of the democratic tradition.
While we’re on the subject. good faith approach: hey what do you mean by electoralism here?
Bad faith: your aggro bullshit
EDIT: I’m being aggro as well. My apologies, I’ll take a step back and cool off
While you take time to cool off try and think of ONE EXAMPLE
All you’re doing is pontificating. I’m asking for an example. A concrete example. You’re not giving me one, you’re just sounding off, accusing me of shit, and being an ass.
He did offer the example of Cuba's pivot on LGBTQ rights in response to me, which I think is a reasonable one.
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