Edit: And to add, I’ve had to deal with so much paternalistic bullshit from white guys in their 30s who consider themselves “very serious organizers” who after lengthy conversations simply fall back onto thought terminating cliches (authoritarianism) or just outright threats of violence towards me and my friends.
What you said is deadass why I stopped organizing with crackers. I save my time, my energy, and my effort for explicitly Black causes at this point because I'm sick of the paternalism, I'm sick of the insistence on assimilation, I'm sick of the tone policing, I'm sick of the liberal optic games. The next cracker to talk down to me in a 'left' offline space is getting his nose broken; so I'm tryna avoid that assault charge for as long as I humanly can.
Like, it fucks me off so damn bad; I used to think my oldheads were just being backwards, recalcitrant oldheads about white folk and increasingly commonly these days, I find myself just "damn, my OGs were really right about y'all". That thought alone pisses me off bc if they're right, that means a solid half of this bullshit society spent my formative years lying that we'd ever get past this together, rather than apart; and I really don't know how to deal with that anymore than to protect my peace, and that of my community.
Yeah, it's depressing as hell. The only "radical" community I know of is overwhelmingly white and filled with these clowns. And it really is just like, a small, annoying, and vocal minority who won't shut the fuck up, but the part that hurts the most is others' indifference to it or eventual compliance after being beat down emotionally. It's making me realizing that recruiting by trying to scrape off the surface of social scenes is maybe a start but not a feasible long term strategy, but, we don't have unions nor connections into them. I feel like we've utterly lost any base as far as I can understand, except for other "intellectuals". We really need to wait until things get far, far worse to begin getting the numbers we need because that's only when our message will resonate, I think, but until then? I'm so fucking lost, personally, but I don't want to depress my comrades with it. This Palestine stuff has been great, but, our victories are for the media, our pressure isn't working. I don't know, I'm so god damn lost.
For the record too, I'm white, I grew up in a small rural town (sub 5k). I've understood the depravity of white people as a result of white supremacy for a while now, but only in short bursts where their mask falls or on an intellectual level. This is the first time I've understood the depravity of whiteness on a real, sustained level. I don't even know how I'd organize outside of that, I don't want to just be like some white person trying to enter other communities I've never been a part of. It's a depressing position, frankly.
That's not true. Evergreen state college is divesting because of student demands. Basically every university in Spain as well, in Belgium the Free University of Brussels is divesting and in Ireland Trinity college as well. This is just the beginning.
What you said is deadass why I stopped organizing with crackers. I save my time, my energy, and my effort for explicitly Black causes at this point because I'm sick of the paternalism, I'm sick of the insistence on assimilation, I'm sick of the tone policing, I'm sick of the liberal optic games. The next cracker to talk down to me in a 'left' offline space is getting his nose broken; so I'm tryna avoid that assault charge for as long as I humanly can.
Like, it fucks me off so damn bad; I used to think my oldheads were just being backwards, recalcitrant oldheads about white folk and increasingly commonly these days, I find myself just "damn, my OGs were really right about y'all". That thought alone pisses me off bc if they're right, that means a solid half of this bullshit society spent my formative years lying that we'd ever get past this together, rather than apart; and I really don't know how to deal with that anymore than to protect my peace, and that of my community.
Yeah, it's depressing as hell. The only "radical" community I know of is overwhelmingly white and filled with these clowns. And it really is just like, a small, annoying, and vocal minority who won't shut the fuck up, but the part that hurts the most is others' indifference to it or eventual compliance after being beat down emotionally. It's making me realizing that recruiting by trying to scrape off the surface of social scenes is maybe a start but not a feasible long term strategy, but, we don't have unions nor connections into them. I feel like we've utterly lost any base as far as I can understand, except for other "intellectuals". We really need to wait until things get far, far worse to begin getting the numbers we need because that's only when our message will resonate, I think, but until then? I'm so fucking lost, personally, but I don't want to depress my comrades with it. This Palestine stuff has been great, but, our victories are for the media, our pressure isn't working. I don't know, I'm so god damn lost.
For the record too, I'm white, I grew up in a small rural town (sub 5k). I've understood the depravity of white people as a result of white supremacy for a while now, but only in short bursts where their mask falls or on an intellectual level. This is the first time I've understood the depravity of whiteness on a real, sustained level. I don't even know how I'd organize outside of that, I don't want to just be like some white person trying to enter other communities I've never been a part of. It's a depressing position, frankly.
Somehow, the reply I meant to address elsewhere ended up going to you, my b sis
That's not true. Evergreen state college is divesting because of student demands. Basically every university in Spain as well, in Belgium the Free University of Brussels is divesting and in Ireland Trinity college as well. This is just the beginning.
I can almost see the pigmentation of the users going to bat for these cracker clowns.