Tankies btfo, how will they ever recover.

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    one of the things i know deeply in my heart, as a brazillian is that lula absolutelly is the type of guy who would like to try to broker a peace between ukraine and russia, so i have been wondering if he will actually try to do it because he has been extremelly neutral, while he did this he also compared the sanctions on venezuela and cuba with the invasion of ukraine while saying that the us should remove the sanctions which is more of a ukraine move and he also folowed up saying that these things can be solved through dialogue, and brazil has good relations with both countries so it would be real funny if lula just solved it

      • redthebaron [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        if you could put lula putin and zelensky in a bar he would solve it, no question, it is home field advantage baby

    • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Absolutely, he says as much in the interview that got him vilified by pro-UA commentators

      I don’t know if I’d be able to. If I was President, I would have phoned [Joe] Biden, and Putin, and Germany, and [Emmanuel] Macron. Because war is not the solution. I think the problem is that if you don’t try, you don’t fix things. And you have to try.

      I don’t know the President of Ukraine. But his behavior is a bit weird. It seems like he’s part of the spectacle. He is on television morning, noon, and night. He is in the U.K. parliament, the German parliament, the French parliament, the Italian parliament, as if he were waging a political campaign. He should be at the negotiating table.

      He did want war. If he didn’t want war, he would have negotiated a little more. That’s it. I criticized Putin when I was in Mexico City [in March], saying that it was a mistake to invade. But I don’t think anyone is trying to help create peace. People are stimulating hate against Putin. That won’t solve things! We need to reach an agreement. But people are encouraging [the war]. You are encouraging this guy [Zelensky], and then he thinks he is the cherry on your cake. We should be having a serious conversation: “OK, you were a nice comedian. But let us not make war for you to show up on TV.” And we should say to Putin: “You have a lot of weapons, but you don’t need to use them on Ukraine. Let’s talk!”

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        You are encouraging this guy [Zelensky], and then he thinks he is the cherry on your cake. We should be having a serious conversation: “OK, you were a nice comedian. But let us not make war for you to show up on TV.”

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        Lula absolutely tore into home there lmao

    • DoubleShot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I feel like Lula is showing us what a decent socdem is like. Boric is the flip side of this coin.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      2 years ago

      Lula invites both Zelensky and Putin for a beer while they discuss how to end the war.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's nice to think about, but it's a proxy war. Unless the dialogue is going to focus around Zelensky pulling NATO's hand out of his ass, I don't see how there could ever possibly be anything to solve. And if they did somehow broker a peace, how many months would it be before Zelensky found himself staring down the barrel of a coup?