Tankies btfo, how will they ever recover.
Liberals would like people to believe that sending weapons is somehow the antiwar position.
one of the things i know deeply in my heart, as a brazillian is that lula absolutelly is the type of guy who would like to try to broker a peace between ukraine and russia, so i have been wondering if he will actually try to do it because he has been extremelly neutral, while he did this he also compared the sanctions on venezuela and cuba with the invasion of ukraine while saying that the us should remove the sanctions which is more of a ukraine move and he also folowed up saying that these things can be solved through dialogue, and brazil has good relations with both countries so it would be real funny if lula just solved it
if you could put lula putin and zelensky in a bar he would solve it, no question, it is home field advantage baby
The statue picks em up and tells them it's a time out until they get along
Absolutely, he says as much in the interview that got him vilified by pro-UA commentators
I don’t know if I’d be able to. If I was President, I would have phoned [Joe] Biden, and Putin, and Germany, and [Emmanuel] Macron. Because war is not the solution. I think the problem is that if you don’t try, you don’t fix things. And you have to try.
I don’t know the President of Ukraine. But his behavior is a bit weird. It seems like he’s part of the spectacle. He is on television morning, noon, and night. He is in the U.K. parliament, the German parliament, the French parliament, the Italian parliament, as if he were waging a political campaign. He should be at the negotiating table.
He did want war. If he didn’t want war, he would have negotiated a little more. That’s it. I criticized Putin when I was in Mexico City [in March], saying that it was a mistake to invade. But I don’t think anyone is trying to help create peace. People are stimulating hate against Putin. That won’t solve things! We need to reach an agreement. But people are encouraging [the war]. You are encouraging this guy [Zelensky], and then he thinks he is the cherry on your cake. We should be having a serious conversation: “OK, you were a nice comedian. But let us not make war for you to show up on TV.” And we should say to Putin: “You have a lot of weapons, but you don’t need to use them on Ukraine. Let’s talk!”
You are encouraging this guy [Zelensky], and then he thinks he is the cherry on your cake. We should be having a serious conversation: “OK, you were a nice comedian. But let us not make war for you to show up on TV.”
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Lula absolutely tore into home there lmao
I feel like Lula is showing us what a decent socdem is like. Boric is the flip side of this coin.
Lula invites both Zelensky and Putin for a beer while they discuss how to end the war.
It's nice to think about, but it's a proxy war. Unless the dialogue is going to focus around Zelensky pulling NATO's hand out of his ass, I don't see how there could ever possibly be anything to solve. And if they did somehow broker a peace, how many months would it be before Zelensky found himself staring down the barrel of a coup?
:wojak-nooo: Plz support the war machine in Ukraine!
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Wonder why they would even ask this, hasn't Lula been pretty clear that Brazil will remain neutral?
like techinically i don't think brazil has even condemned the russian invasion because bolsonaro didn't do it and there is really no reason to do it now
pretty long history of countries claiming to be neutral while still providing arms
That's actually really funny how Bolsonaro, biggest America worshipper that would let the us nuke his own country, shot himself in the foot by being such a diehard for Trump and thus losing any potential US support he may have gotten.
Bolsonaro had that Trump factor of really getting the libs to hate him.
Also, I don't think Biden and the EU care about a socdem being in power so long as they don't nationalize resources or industries, and otherwise allow for unfettered exploitation by the global north. Lula hasn't done anything against that so far. If he does, watch him get the Evo treatment.
Because Bolsonaro was a true believer in Trump and his own lies. He refused to speak to Biden, he only spoke to him once and he openly asked Biden to help him rig the election, he did it like in a room full of journalists. Biden literally told him to shut up.
So he decided to ask Putin the same thing. He went on to publicly attack Zelensky and called Ukrainians idiots for voting for a "clown" as president. Lula knows Biden personally, even Bush had respect for Lula. Dude was known for helping Venezuela and Iran negotiate treaties with the US.
As for the EU, Lula is a friend of Macron, Sanchez and Olaf Scholtz. Bolsonaro ranted about how his wife was beautiful and Macron's was ugly and other mean words, noting that Bolsonaro's wife is known to be a drug dealer and cheats on him with a lot of men. Bolsonaro refused to accept any money the Europeans gave him because, in his words, they were socialists.
and called Ukrainians idiots for voting for a “clown” as president
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Yeah, but he is Bolsonaro. The worst and dumbest president in south america.
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This bolsonaro guy is really a rock.
The parallel to Jan 6 was a huge boost for lib good will to him - even the neolibs who surely hate him had to play along. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a turnabout in 6 months, or sooner.
i think the amazon situation is a real tool of diplomatic force and also real for PR, like bolsonaro was destroying the amazon and lula won the election and is stoping the bleeding, lula also is a proven administrator, who had reduced the number during his first tenure and had good relations with everybody while bolsonaro once cancelled a meeting with macron and then posted a photo of him getting his hair cut during the time that the meeting would happen in a diplomatic event for some reason, he is a weirdo and lula is a really good brand you want that political shine like barrack did the same and bush also did
lmao tankie has become anti-capitalist/ acting against NATO interests
A BRICS country doesn't want to send military aid to Ukraine? :capitaldcolon:
Why can’t the invisible hand of the free market just send tank ammo?
