What sources support that (besides Time Man Of The Year 1938)
America only got involved to protect banking interests in Europe. You think the nazis were going to pay back the loans of the countries they overran? Lol no.
the US preferred the Axis to the Soviet Union, but strongly supported the UK over Germany.
That's simply not true. The US began providing Lend-Lease aid to the USSR in 1941 before entering the war.
I mean before the Nazis invaded the USSR. Public opinion was very anti-Soviet before then.
Anti-Soviet, but still more anti-Nazi. Worth remembering that in the UK the populace was far and away supportive of close ties to the Soviets even after the Pact was signed. There was a downturn for the Winter War but then an uptick again. France however did go off the deep end.
if the soviets didn't want or appreciate the help they would not have accepted it.
theres a very long way from 'the soviets would not have been defeated without lend-lease' to 'lend lease was meaningless' and that distance is measured in tens of thousands of soviet lives
Iirc, one of the reasons for Pearl Harbor was the Oil embargo on Japan.
Does "what no theory does to a motherfucker" apply here?
Roosevelt’s administration was easily the most left wing of any American president. I believe that the Communist Party (under Soviet orders) were even in a sort of popular front with the Democratic Party at the time. Henry Wallace was a fellow traveler.
And of course the US and UK were and still are inextricably linked financially and culturally, especially at the elite level. So both the ideology of the administration, and a general WASP solidarity meant that the US was never going to side with the Germans.
Idk about the CPUSA, but socialists openly supported FDR and the New Deal, which made him hated by the American bourgeoisie who allegedly planned a coup against him.
I wanted to double check to be sure. But yes, the Communist Party did in fact support Roosevelt. Here’s an excerpt from a Jacobin article about the history of the party.
“The CP’s attitude toward President Roosevelt also evolved substantially. During the Third Period, he had been criticized on virtually every policy, even being called a “fascist.” During 1936, the party uneasily moved from advocating a Farmer–Labor party to tacit support for FDR’s reelection. The so-called People’s Front or antifascist coalition was eventually extended to include the Democratic Party.
In 1936, the party had criticized FDR for failing to lend aid to the embattled Loyalists in Spain. By 1937, it republished and lauded his speeches in the Daily Worker. In late 1937, it described him as “the most outstanding antifascist spokesman within the capitalist democracies.” At the May 1938, Tenth National Convention, the hall was decorated with American flags, and delegates sang the “Star-Spangled Banner” and a sanitized version of “The Internationale.” The party became Roosevelt’s abject apologists. When the president refused to support anti-lynching legislation, it blamed reactionaries in Congress and refused to criticize him directly. The CP blamed his policy on Spain on members of his cabinet. It even claimed at times to be the most consistent of New Dealers.” https://jacobin.com/2019/12/communist-party-usa-history
That was bankers who did that. It was literally called the Bankers Plot.
Yes.
They are also featured in Paradox games in relation to fascist paths in both HoI4 (focus) and Vicky3(fascist party name) . For some reason.
Isn't there a game mod for Hearts of Iron where the Silver Legion can straight up conquer America and start WW2?
Probably lol, HoI 4 has a vast modding scene, I'm not big on HoI4 so idk
former was a little less openly frothing but still very anti-left and pro-law and order
Fascist Italy was acceptable because its ambitions did not interfere with the French or British (or American) spheres. it was not the degree to which their methods upset libs stomachs, their repression of the left was absolutely fine to libs, and was not nicer than the Nazis.
the Nazis were of course much worse to many more groups than leftists, but that was not the reason the allies actually fought them
I know literally nothing about this Mayor LaGuardia guy so I started reading the Wikipedia page for some idea of how out and out fascist he was and it seems like he did a bunch of public works but then also basically helped fundraise for Fascist Italy's invasion of Ethiopia?
Also if I had a nickel for everytime MSG was used a venue for fascism, I'd have two nickels. Which is not a lot but it's weird it happened twice. (MSG was for the American NAZI Rally and apparently also for the handover of the raised money at an Italian-American rally for the invasion of Ethiopia).
I know some Germans in the US and some loud minorities like Henry Ford were pro-Axis, but I'm pretty sure general public support for the Axis wasn't more than public support for the Allies.
Found thison Time surprisingly: https://time.com/5414055/american-nazi-sympathy-book/
if you include japan in the "axis" this idea becomes even more laughable
