"Masses of Minneapolis Police from all precincts, including SWAT and a State Patrol surveillance helicopter, swarmed a protest for the police killing of Tyre Nichols as it was about to start in SE Minneapolis in single digit temps. No officers were seen getting out of their vehicles & no arrests. Crowd dispersed."

  • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    100% valid. But then what can get libs into the streets with us? What do they need to see. I'm just frustrated

    • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      At this point? I’m not even sure. It’s hard to see another breaking moment, but the things people need to survive (food, water, electricity) are usually pressure points.

      • Gabbo [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        If uvalde didn't get them to turn on the cops, nothing will. They see us a poison to be avoided until everything looks worse by comparison

    • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Widespread food shortages? I can't picture anything else that would push them toward action without also intimidating them into inaction.

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        only something like that, yeah.

        people got together to protest the death of eric garner and so many others. they didn't realize that the real message they were sending the government was 'get better at repression'. this tyre nichols case strikes me as the time the american government got ahead of a story and dismantled popular momentum before it got going.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think there's a really good chance that Mr. Nichols had been murdered in July things would have popped off and we'd be in the Cool Zone right now. January is just a bad time for mass movements.

          RE: Get better at repression; The same thing happened after the Battle of Seattle. The cops all got together and came up with the new operating doctrine that was used at the 2003 Miami RNC. They came up with the novel innovation of passing laws that were blatantly unconstitutional and shamelessly engaging in widespread civil rights violations, knowing that the courts wouldn't do anything about it until days, weeks, or years after the repression had been accomplished. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the police, military, and intelligence agencies at every level have been analyzing 2020 extensively and working out how to crush any further dissent.