"Masses of Minneapolis Police from all precincts, including SWAT and a State Patrol surveillance helicopter, swarmed a protest for the police killing of Tyre Nichols as it was about to start in SE Minneapolis in single digit temps. No officers were seen getting out of their vehicles & no arrests. Crowd dispersed."

  • PZK [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    ...had institutions and established leaders, caucuses and so on, something that these sporadic anti police protests largely don’t have.

    Unfortunately there is now historical precedent for what happens to socialists who organize to a certain extent in America. That time period you are speaking of came to an end when the state found the solution to de-fanging and destroying leftist organizations and civil rights leaders. They killed the leaders and the movements collapsed.

    While groups and movements that exist now have the ultimate weakness of no clearly defined direction or leadership, that also is their greatest asset. The right can't outright kill these movements and it makes them furious. Right-wingers are constantly trying to figure out who "leads" Antifa or BLM so they can kill them. There isn't a need for a leader for the movement to exist because enough people strongly agree with these loose organizations nebulous ideas.

    Not saying its ideal though. Until the left gets serious about protecting their leaders you won't see any.

    • TheLegendaryCarrot23 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Among all the failures yes unquestionably WW1, FDR's exit, COINTELPRO , the red scare, US army domestic psy ops and the wave of assassinations in the 60's had a huge impact . But that's a given, we know the bourgeoisie, the war lords and so on will do everything to subvert and kill the left .

      So yes today , "they" [ the security state, the bourgeoisie the right] may not be able to completely kill multiple largely impotent disorganized movements, but what they can do is effectively the same or perhaps even worse . The state can marginalize them to irrelevance, coopt them, infiltrate them, create chaos and so on more effective then it even did through the "counter culture" era. Its simply a road to nowhere in the end but as you said yes it's something to start from . Any display of outrage is frankly welcome at this point .