except Ringo Starr who was a management plant and opportunist put in to sabotage The Beatles from the inside. he supported Brexit and was prominently featured in the Pandora Papers.

fun fact: Back in the USSR only got recorded because at the time they managed to kick Ringo out for a short period of time

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    The only reason they got popular was that they were playing popular Black music while being White

    While this was a big part of it, they also showed up at the exact right time and place to seize on the American cultural zeitgeist with a lot of concerted help from capital. The Beatles as a cultural monolith was an almost entirely fabricated phenomenon by the studios.

    also let’s talk about how Get Back was originally super racist.

    From what I understand it was always a protest song about the surge in anti-immigrant rhetoric among the English populace at the time. It was a response to stuff like Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech.

    Also Billy Preston was a big part of that song ever being finished, it's the only time a non-Beatle was voluntarily credited for a Beatles song.

    The Beatles suck, but not for that reason.

    • CantaloupeAss [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The Beatles as a cultural monolith was an almost entirely fabricated phenomenon by the studios.

      Are you really suggesting that people weren't screaming and crying and pissing themselves in droves trying to see the Beatles?

      I mean they may have been heavily promoted over other contemporary groups, and you may not like them. But to suggest that the Beatles were anything less than an earth-shattering cultural phenomenon is just revisionism. Every rock musician you have ever heard lists the Beatles as a major influence and their style can be heard everywhere in music, to this day

      • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Saying it was fabricated is not the same as saying it wasn't real.

        I mean they may have been heavily promoted over other contemporary groups,

        This is what I'm referring to with the fabricated point, to counter the earlier comment that it was all just whiteys playing black music that made them a massive success.

        But to suggest that the Beatles were anything less than an earth-shattering cultural phenomenon is just revisionism. Every rock musician you have ever heard lists the Beatles as a major influence and their style can be heard everywhere in music, to this day

        I never implied anything to the contrary of this. For what it's worth I like The Beatles, Hey, Jude was the first song I learned on the guitar. I just don't think they're good like in the moral sense.