Not tagging this spoiler cause fuck TERFs, don't buy the game, uphold TC69 Thought etc. Have gotten this all from the above article and reviews that support it.

Yep, anti-semitic, slave-owning, Protocols of Zion plagiarising, let's join the anti-goblin pogrom game.

Yes the MacGuffin unambiguously belongs to the Goblins, who have a labour theory of ownership. No you can't join the Goblins. Yes you kill a bunch of them. Yes, there is a fucking quisling that's seen as good actually. Yes, every teacher thinks fighting the goblins is a good thing, despite a few token missions that apparently show how oppressed they are.

No, you never critique that this and every other aspect of the wizard world might be a bad thing.

I am once again calling for the House Elves to rise up, slit every slaver-wizard throat in Hogwarts, and place their heads on pikes outside the entrance as a warning to the others.

Don't. Buy. The TERF. Game.

  • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    From a glance, you know the game isn't even going to be the self-insert fan fic they want it to be.

    It's pathetic. You're not stopping an actual evil, your character has no interaction with the characters you grew up with, and the characters you do meet, including your avatar, have no impact on the canon of the setting. The worldbuilding of HP is dog shit, and I wish people weren't such little piggies for their focus-group approved slop.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I think in a vaccum it is ok to go in this direction otherwise you end up like Star Wars where every single game has a reference or direct interaction with Darth Vader, Yoda etc. You want to build a world not just a "world" that is realy just the same timeframe with the same characters over and over.

      But I only say this because media into game adaptations are almost destined to suck because of this problem and executives designing by comittee.

      "Oh you must have shit main character everyone loves for at least X% of the screen time otherwise marketing says it wont sell with [insert focus group taken from their ass here]."

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        every single game has a reference or direct interaction with Darth Vader, Yoda etc. You want to build a world not just a “world” that is realy just the same timeframe with the same characters over and over.

        You can use major original characters as touchstone or include them in cameos.

        The final fight in Jedi: Fallen Order just being a run-away from Darth Vader was a good way to wrap it up. Same with the final scene from Rogue One. Having a bunch of the Rogue One story take place on Jedha, the ancestral home of the Jedi, was a great way to include Jedi social influence without having an actual literal Jedi running around.

        Having some KOTOR character meet another member of Yoda's species - or even a Baby Yoda - is fine. Having a side quest in the Galactic Senate, where you need to lobby Chancellor Palatine for a favor is cute.

        So long as it's tangential to the main plot arc, it gives the story a bit of grounding in the original works such that its not just Generic Space Fantasy.

        Just use a light touch.

      • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, this is one of the many many reasons andor was better than the rest of the star wars slop. Only established characters who weren't glup shittos was mon mothma and saw, who make sense to be in the story.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Seriously HP fans should just read other fucking books.

      There's so so many fantasy settings that are superior to HP in every way, better and more interesting politics, more consistent and more deep lore, more interesting characters. HP isn't actually bad for a children's story (if you ignore the ideology) but that's all it is really.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Racist wizards don't normalize racism for children in their most impressionable years, never ever! Stop criticizing things! :wojak-nooo:

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      The worldbuilding of HP is dog shit

      The first book is warmed over Roald Dahl novel. No worse than Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or James and the Giant Peach.

      Setting aside the farce that is Quidditch, the story through book 4 is on the better end of YA fiction. Certainly better than Twilight or Hunger Games.

      After that they degrade rapidly. Book 7 is just a meandering clusterfuck.

      But to just kinda write off a wildly popular series like this as "bad writing" feels reactionary. Just Ben Shapiro tier criticism.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I thought the person you replied to was talking about bad writing in the game, not the series as a whole.

      • CommunistBarbie [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        But to just kinda write off a wildly popular series like this as “bad writing” feels reactionary

        fellas is it reactionary to dislike harry potter

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        I find The Worse Witch, let alone Narnia or The Dark is Rising to have generally better world building, all predate Rowling so she has no excuse.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          1 year ago

          Narnia was another series with a very strong start and a wet fart of an ending. The Last Battle was awful. The Voyage of the Dawn Treader literally went nowhere. There's a reason they gave up making those movies halfway through.

          Dark is Rising was cliche and boring compared to the LotR source material it desperately wanted to be.

          Never read the Worse Witch so, shrug

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            Yeah, I agree (though I really like Dawn Treader, actually. It's not very filmable though, given it getting increasingly less adventure tale and more introspective. Also Horse and his Boy despite it being deeply, deeply problematic is a genuinely fun book)

            Dark is Rising...I always thought it took more from Dunsany and Poe and maybe Walton than Tolkien. Certainly it's not as derivative as GG Kay's work

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              1 year ago

              Also Horse and his Boy despite it being deeply, deeply problematic is a genuinely fun book

              It's a textbook case of why you need to set aside being Woke sometimes and just enjoy things. Probably the best book in the series, even if Magician's Nephew is kinda my favorite.

              Dark is Rising…I always thought it took more from Dunsany and Poe and maybe Walton than Tolkien. Certainly it’s not as derivative as GG Kay’s work

              I mean, what do I know? I never made it past the first book.

              Maybe I'd just been too heavy on high fantasy at that point and just couldn't stomach the tropes.

      • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        I'm specifically criticizing the worldbuilding. JKR plays fast and loose with how the setting works and can't leave well enough alone.

        Things like the Time Turner, the canon information about magic outside of Hogwarts/UK, the oversimplified house system, and categorizing several sentient species as 'magical creatures' In this instance, it's the portrayal of goblins.

        I think a lot of the fans who were drawn to it, me included, brought our own imagination to the work. That's good to capture an audience like that, but jkr's politics easily seep into the way the world works.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          1 year ago

          Things like the Time Turner, the canon information about magic outside of Hogwarts/UK, the oversimplified house system, and categorizing several sentient species as ‘magical creatures’ In this instance, it’s the portrayal of goblins.

          The Time Turner wasn't any worse than any other bit of magical realism in the setting. It existed to build Hermonie - the workaholic - and Harry - the hero worshipper - as characters, not to magically solve all their problems.

          Past that, its just nitpicking. The fact that she has a broader world and its not just four different kinds of Specials locked in a cage death match together puts it head and shoulders above most YA fiction.

          a lot of the fans who were drawn to it, me included, brought our own imagination to the work. That’s good to capture an audience like that, but jkr’s politics easily seep into the way the world works.

          The politics shifted over time, and that's what really poisoned the series. What starts as this existential struggle between generations - the very opening scene is the Old World Dying and The New Being Born - lapses into a McGuffin Hunt in defense of the status quo.

          So much of the Problem With Dobbie isn't in Book 2. It shows up in 5, 6, and 7 when Rowling just kinda abandons the idea of emancipation and social justice.

          The underdog story mutates into a crime drama and the protagonists change from revolutionary insurgents into child soldiers.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          1 year ago

          It features a white woman power fantasy wearing a revolutionary hat. Libs jumped all over it for a reason.

          • rubpoll [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Sort of. It portrays Katniss as a near-useless mascot. Everybody at the front of the prole uprising acknowledges she's a useless mascot. She spends the third book fucking around in a sewer while the actual masses take the fight to the gates of the capital.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, everyone actually wants animal farm:hogsmeade edition. But the worldbuilding is too shit to support it.