When I was a kid I loved Heinlein, Asimov, Piers Anthony, Howard, Lovecraft, among dozens of other then popular scifi and fantasy authors

Heinlein is some weirdo libertarian fascist

Asimov hates women and was a notorious sex creep

Zanthony is a pedophile and his books are full of creepy shit

Howard was staggeringly racist

Lovecraft is also famously racist.

And that's just the ones off the top of my head.

At some point I learned that all these guys were creeps, came to terms with it, and moved on with my life. Like an adult.

So all these people whining that "oh no I can't let go of my childhood!!!!" fill me with contempt. Many of the great shit-head scifi/fantasy writers of the 20th century made great contributions to the field of fantasy and sci fi. Our conception of robots wouldn't be the same without Asimov. Heinlein changed military sci-fi forever. Howard's Conan had a lasting impact on fantasy fiction far beyond what was merited by his mediocre writing. Lovecraft introduced the notion of Cosmic Horror that continues to push back the borders of science fiction today.

Rowling can claim none of that. Her wizard books are extremely mediocre with poor plots, flat characters, and no new ideas. Their popularity is the result of a then unprecedented marketing campaign, not any particular artistic merit. They're entirely pedestrian and forgettable and there's no reason to read them except as a historical curiosity or a case study in successful marketing of children's literature.

I gave up many genuinely influential and talented writers when I realized that they were jackasses. There was nothing riding on it. No one is using Lovecraft to justify violence against Inuit people or something. I just found out they were jerks and said "Well shit. Guess I won't recommend these to kids anymore".

And all these jackasses have the audacity to say that we should respect their love of the mid wizard book beause it's so important to them?

  • Homestar440 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I was a huge Terry Goodkind fan as a teen, didn’t take too long into my political wakening to realize it’s just high fantasy Ayn Rand.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Terry Goodkind

      They raced out from the long shadows of the buildings and poured around the corner. The people off at the end of the street all turned when they spotted Richard's force coming. More people--men and women from the city--surged into the street in front of the compound of buildings the soldiers had taken out as barracks and a command post. The people looked like a scraggly lot.

      "No war! No war! No war!" The people shouted as Richard led the men up the street at a dead run.

      "Out of the way!" Richard yelled as he closed the distance. This was no time for subtlety or discussions: the success of their attack depended in large part on speed. "Get out of the way! This is your only warning! Get out of the way or die!"

      "Stop the hate! Stop the hate!" the people chanted as they locked arms.

      They had no idea how much hate was raging through Richard. He drew the Sword of Truth. The wrath of its magic didn't come out with it, but he had enough of his own. He slowed to a trot.

      "Move!" Richard called as he bore down on the people.

      A plump, curly-haired woman took a step out from the others. Her round face was red with anger as she screamed. "Stop the hate! No war! Stop the hate! No war!"

      "Move or die!" Richard yelled as he picked up speed.

      The red-faced woman shook her fleshy fist at Richard and his men, leading an angry chant. "Murderers! Murderers! Murderers!" On his way past her, gritting his teeth as he screamed with the fury of the attack begun, Richard took a powerful swing, lopping off the woman's head and upraised arm. Strings of blood and gore splashed across the faces behind her even as some still chanted their empty words. The head and loose arm tumbled through the crowd. A man mad the mistake of reaching for Richard's weapon, and took the full weight of a charging thrust.

      Men behind Richard hit the line of evil's guardians with unrestrained violence. People armed only with their hatred for moral clarity fell bloodied, terribly injured, and dead. The line of people collapsed before the merciless charge. Some of the people, screaming their contempt, used their fists to attack Richard's men. They were met with swift and deadly steel.

      At the realization that their defense of the Imperial Order's brutality would actually result in consequences to themselves, the crowd began scattering in fright, screaming curses back at Richard and his men.

      • Homestar440 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Totally normal and fine good guys doing normal and fine good things.

    • Farman [any]
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      2 years ago

      What reaĺy pissed me was that he adds huge parts of the world without anyyforeshadowing after book 3 or so. This shows he does not have any respect for his audience. That offended me and i stop reading.

      Then there is the endles melodrama. It gets tiersome after the nth time khalam is about to get raped. Cant they think of a new plotline?

      • Homestar440 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Then there is the endles melodrama. It gets tiersome after the nth time khalam is about to get raped. Cant they think of a new plotline?

        I haven't read them since I was a teen, but this is super accurate. Most the characters were kinda shit people for most of the series, and all the SA and R is super fucked up now that you say it outright.

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's been like 20 years since I read those books but Richard Rahl basically takes control of the Nazi government to fight the overwhelming might of the communist army, right?

      • Homestar440 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I’d have to reread it to sus out of the good guys were coded nazis, but yeah, communism bad was clear as day. Also, another user posted an excerpt, (I wanna say from faith of the fallen) that’s pretty fucking yikes, so yeah.

        • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          At the beginning of the series their country is at war with the good magic people and has death squads comprised of ubermensch roaming the country side. I'm not sure if there were any genocides going on but it was basically he reformed the bad but proud nationalist nation.