• blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I mean the only radical org operating in denver during that time was black hammer lol

    of course the liberals had no idea. every major protest movement was captured in similar ways, whether it was the black capitalism landlord guy in seattle or whatever else. only places that got spicy were minny & portland, probably because they had the orgs to do so

    • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Denver psl? Didn’t some of them get locked up? Idk they’d probably be called wreckers if they tried to kick people out of protests.

      Yeah https://www.leftvoice.org/denver-blm-activists-and-psl-members-arrested-charged-with-multiple-felonies/

      • blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        oh yeah ty for the reminder. yeah one of the problems with that summer is that there were a lot of liberals in the streets with no revolutionary education policing peoples behavior

        • bbnh69420 [she/her, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          It’s a fine line that can be difficult to tell in the moment. This guy seems cartoonishly obvious, yeah, but it goes both ways

          • blue_lives_murder [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah I get that. I don't participate much in my primary org anymore because I suspect certain folks of being disruptive for ulterior motives, but I'm not out there fedjacketing them either. I just focus on our primary mission and have entirely detached from internal politics.

            I feel comfortable speaking for most of us radicals who were on the streets in 2020 that the most infuriating part of the whole thing were the fucking liberals.

            I'm due for a fresh account so I'll share this. Liberals are fucking terrible at identifying the correct behavior to police. It does go both ways but as other commenters are pointing out, this dude was cartoonish. It's not fedjacketing to point out an obvious fed. But I'm sure as soon as this dude started fedjacketing people the libs lined right up behind him, because they have absolutely no revolutionary education. The only good thing to come out of 2020 is that some people received one.

            On a relatively(lol*) calm day in july 2020 I was on bike crew for a march in my city. The march wound up going to a public square for speeches, so we posted up like a block away from the crowd opposite a pig barricade, occupied by normal pigs but with swat pigs staging behind them. The barricade also happens to be the rear entrance for an official city government gathering that prominent people in the protests that hadn't been invited to are trying to get in. They talk to pigs at the barricade, eventually convince them to let them in.

            Almost immediately afterward, a white woman in a hijab walks up to the barricade to a different pig a few meters away and talks to them for a few minutes. She walks away and happens to pass me, so I get her attention and ask her loudly, "Hey watcha talkin to the pigs about?" She starts stammering a quiet response (honestly have no idea what she said, it's not why I asked the question), but she doesn't get more than a few words in before some white woman next to me tone polices the shit out of me, "I think we should let the leaders of the march do the talking." And the undercover pig scurries off.

            Implication being if you're not obviously black you should just get in line. I nod at her and go back to staring down the pigs. A dude on the line with us with a walkie who was clearly part of the march's organizers walks over and nods to me and says, "Thanks we got her description out."

            I didn't know the folks organizing things that day, but it's safe to say I helped them ID someone probably problematic.

            *Like 15 mins after the events I'm describing happened a car broke through the barricade another block away from the crowd and sped towards us before deciding against vehicular homicide and veering away at our intersection. I stood between the car and the crowd before they turned off the other way. I told a friend who works for the ACLU about that and he said, entirely earnestly, "you were the victim of a crime, you should report that!"

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              The ACLU are a perfect example of why I hate libs more than fascists. Fash gonna fash, but libs are outt here enshrining the legal right to fash for no goddamn reason except their "principles"

              Also - staring down an oncoming vehicle is no fun at all, respect.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Minneapolis and Portland also had the advantage of near universal loathing of the police by everyone who wasn't white and economically stable. Having a recognized common enemy helps a great deal.