• CarbonScored [any]
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    8 months ago

    Overprivatization throughout the west eventually leading to western governments becoming insignificant. Ancap corporate feudalism ensues, fails horribly, China and other socialist countries far outstrip those countries, and then enough people along the way think "huh maybe we should do something a bit more like that".

    I think that's the most likely hope for a communist future. The ideal way would obviously be mass organisation and consciousness to the point where you could just elect a socialist third party and have the organised masses to ensure that changeover actually happens.

    Real question is if any of that happens quickly enough before climate change causes too much devastation.

    • Beaver [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      Real question is if any of that happens quickly enough before climate change causes too much devastation.

      It's a dark possible outcome: Capitalism becoming literally unstoppable in the lead up to total environmental collapse precisely because it expends no effort on trying to preserve a future, and so can materially out-compete other systems that are trying to save that future. That's the folly of liberal efforts to create "market based solutions" to environmental problems, and is why western liberalism is definitely not going to have a future.

      • CarbonScored [any]
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        7 months ago

        It's a scarily plausible outcome, and reinforces how changing behaviour in western countries is the only hope - Even if China went carbon negative tomorrow, it still can't outweigh the rest of the world's spewy businesses who would just see it as a carte blanche to make more money.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      Real question is if any of that happens quickly enough before climate change causes too much devastation.

      Lol, lmao even, we're way past late for that unless major change happens almost literally overnight.

      I think your take is spot on except there's probably going to be another fascism phase that's going to hit some/most/all of Euro states.