A bunch of internet posters who actually think they would behave like Lenin in 1917 if presented with conflict against the state.
What of the tens of thousands of VVAW that succeeded in providing amnesty for draft dodgers in 1980? Should I wish they died instead of helping push the narrative against the war and end the draft?
Mods are deleting my post now because they can’t handle the argument that cheering the death of millions of proletariat is not Marxist.
Maybe they would. Maybe they wouldn't, hard to say if you don't live in any of those conditions.
I'd like to point to the conspiracy to kill Caesar, the conspirators had a couple of dozens onboard to assassinate Caesar but in the end only about 7 of them actually went and done the action.
The way a lot lefties look at conflict and arguments is a result of growing up in a western world, I think the left would be better if we strayed away from debate bro stuff and trying to peg things down into purely evil/purely good. Contradiction analysis n all that
Exactly what I was trying to say, but in a conflict oriented way.
I guess in the future I’ll be less confrontational. I just find it so “lib” to think so highly of yourself that you’d make all the right decisions in a period that’s 50 years removed from draft dodging being a felony and 40 years from smart phones and the internet allowing people to gather alternative media.
You have no idea what you would’ve been like back then. The conditions were completely different!
Dont be confrontational here is my recommendation, there are few places where people try to be nice and when people argue with you like that theyre wrong too, even if they think theyre right for it.
On the other note, You dont know what you would be like if you were born in another part of the country to different people, I think lefties think they are the way they are because theyre special when thats probably only a small factor of it.
Maybe if you were born in Oklahoma to poor people you wouldnt reach class consciousness or maybe much later in life.
I mean hell, Pat Tillman went from patriotic volunteer NAVY SEAL to the only public military service member to speak against the war. All in under a year of his deployment. Should I be happy he got shot by US troops because he ate up propaganda after 9/11?
Yes and no. Yes on the behalf of the third world, no on the behalf of the US consciousness. We live in contradictions, leftists should do their best to acknowledge them whenever possible.
A bunch of internet posters who actually think they would behave like Lenin in 1917 if presented with conflict against the state.
What of the tens of thousands of VVAW that succeeded in providing amnesty for draft dodgers in 1980? Should I wish they died instead of helping push the narrative against the war and end the draft?
Mods are deleting my post now because they can’t handle the argument that cheering the death of millions of proletariat is not Marxist.
Maybe they would. Maybe they wouldn't, hard to say if you don't live in any of those conditions.
I'd like to point to the conspiracy to kill Caesar, the conspirators had a couple of dozens onboard to assassinate Caesar but in the end only about 7 of them actually went and done the action.
The way a lot lefties look at conflict and arguments is a result of growing up in a western world, I think the left would be better if we strayed away from debate bro stuff and trying to peg things down into purely evil/purely good. Contradiction analysis n all that
Exactly what I was trying to say, but in a conflict oriented way.
I guess in the future I’ll be less confrontational. I just find it so “lib” to think so highly of yourself that you’d make all the right decisions in a period that’s 50 years removed from draft dodging being a felony and 40 years from smart phones and the internet allowing people to gather alternative media.
You have no idea what you would’ve been like back then. The conditions were completely different!
Dont be confrontational here is my recommendation, there are few places where people try to be nice and when people argue with you like that theyre wrong too, even if they think theyre right for it.
On the other note, You dont know what you would be like if you were born in another part of the country to different people, I think lefties think they are the way they are because theyre special when thats probably only a small factor of it.
Maybe if you were born in Oklahoma to poor people you wouldnt reach class consciousness or maybe much later in life.
Thank you for the advice
And yes, that specialness is what bothers me too.
I mean hell, Pat Tillman went from patriotic volunteer NAVY SEAL to the only public military service member to speak against the war. All in under a year of his deployment. Should I be happy he got shot by US troops because he ate up propaganda after 9/11?
Yes and no. Yes on the behalf of the third world, no on the behalf of the US consciousness. We live in contradictions, leftists should do their best to acknowledge them whenever possible.