https://nitter.1d4.us/reddit_lies/status/1628155914774511619

  • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Their advocacy for a 15 minute city is fundamentally flawed. Cars are the fastest means of transportation, even with traffic.

    Even in the best circumstances for public transportation, commute times are, at the minimum, twice as long as a car.

    :what:

      • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        They did link a study, but that’s a single one that goes against just about every mainstream thought of urban planning. Even the car brain engineers I know say that America’s lack of fast public transportation is pathetic compared to the world

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Even if you went back to 1920 with old trams and the first shitty subways it would still be better than horse carriages. Nothing changed, actually it only got worse in comparison.

      • GuerrillaMindset [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        it's hilarious how these people contort themselves into knots to justify the reality today when in actuality these same car companies dismantled the very railroads that were a threat to their bottom line

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I was in Japan recently. I decided to take the Shinkansen one direction and an airplane back, thinking the rail would be slower but more relaxed while the plane would save me time. The train picked up right from downtown and dropped me off within five minutes of my hotel. Commuting to and from the airports added two hours to my trip. Security added another hour. And then the plane was delayed on the tarmac as they de-iced the wings.

      In the end, I only saved 30 minutes on what was supposed to be a 4 hour reduction in travel time.

      Now just imagine doing that shit in a car. Jesus fucking Christ.

      • ShareThatBread [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It’s so much better. More room. Can get up to go to the bathroom easily. Interesting scenery along the way. Can buy a cheap meal at the station before getting on.

        • TRAPSTAR_666 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          but I don't get to tail behind the driver in front of me and shoot at him and miss and hit some bystander driver's 5 month old child on the opposite side of the highway

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Now just imagine doing that shit in a car. Jesus fucking Christ.

        I don't have to imagine. I once got suck on a 6 hour traffic jam on the Tomei Expressway. 6 hours to crawl 80kms before we tapped out.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Fun fact: cars go faster and stop less in the Netherlands and Switzerland

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, fuck it, I'd take a 1.5hr train ride instead of my commute, what the fuck is this guy talking about? It'll be cheaper and I'd get some more podcasts in.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      That's the best circumnstance they can imagine? My shitty transit system here can run at less than half the speed of car and it needs serious work.

    • YourFavoriteFed [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      They are kings with Jester's privilege. An Emperor-Jester's privilege if you will (I'm not good at names).

      They can say whatever they want and it will be taken as gospel. They determine the truth, not any paper or research.

    • TRAPSTAR_666 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Even if that's true, who gives a shit? You can't have infinite oil, more people die from cars, everyone wants to kill each other over parking, and gas fluctuates based on the whims of random suits

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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        2 years ago

        Strong, rigorous arguments herein

        https://unevenearth.org/2018/08/the-social-ideology-of-the-motorcar/