• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In an ideal world all the Francophones and Anglos would be forced to learn a First Nations language instead.

    • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is the central contradiction of these fucking Quebecois who are so chauvinistic about language

  • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Someone who lives outside of Canada might be tempted to dismiss this as 'treat discourse', and that's fine, but I would politely urge them to read the article first.

    What next? Requiring translations of Chinese-named dishes, so 'chow mein' becomes 'Chow Blvd. Saint-Laurent'?

    AFAIK the usual move here is to do a morpheme-by-morpheme translation with the ethnic origin tacked on at the end, so 'chow mein' would probably become something like 'nouilles sautées à la cantonaise', which is both more verbose and less fun than what Freed is suggesting.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It'd be hard to dismiss this as treat discourse. The usual language wars in Quebec are weird, but this seems like pretty clearly xenophobic.

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Notoriously so. Everyone knows the quebecois behave as if the canadian state isn't extremely accomodating to their ethno-linguistic woes.

  • Self_Hating_Moid [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Going to el Paso texas and being forced to call a taco a flour bread meat cheese bean wrap

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    L Lmao chowmein is already called nouilles sautées à la cantonaise when i was working at a Chinese Restaurant

    Tbh i don’t know why the manager didn’t hide the ghost menu like every Chinese restaurant do

    This article is kind of dishonest because it hits on a strawman. The reason why is an issue now is because Montreal Chinatown is dying and it’s not because of the language police lmao

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Tbh i don’t know why the manager didn’t hide the ghost menu like every Chinese restaurant do

      It was on the wall in big characters, but after they got in trouble they took the wall sign down and now have a secret menu they only hand out to Chinese customers.

      I think language police shit is fine if you're trying to resist a bigger language coming in and colonizing your culture ie English but enforcing it on a smaller language like the cantonese spoken by an ethnic minority in one part of the city is fash shit. It's basically what started the Ukrainian Civil War in 2014.

      • Fishroot [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        enforcing it on a smaller language like the cantonese (…) is fash shit

        As if Canada didn’t give the Chinese the right to vote till like the 50s

        But hey at least they gave a reparation check of 10k to the suviving family members of chinese people who got headtaxed into staying in Canada.

        Chinese people need to understand that the perceived acceptance of Quebec/canada for them is all conditional

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I've never heard about this and holy shit.

          The tax was abolished by the Chinese Immigration Act of 1923, which outright prevented all Chinese immigration except for that of business people, clergy, educators, students, and some others.

          :agony-shivering:

          To the disappointment of many in the Chinese Canadian community, it was announced that only original head tax payers, or their surviving spouses, then in their nineties, or a total 785 claimants, would receive CAD$20,000 in individual redress, representing less than a fraction of one-percent of the 81,000 original head tax payers.[38] Only an estimated 20 Chinese Canadians who paid the tax were still alive in 2006.

          :agony-4horsemen:

  • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Bill 96 officially requires companies of 25 people to communicate internally predominately in French. But in many Chinese restaurants that would be especially tricky.

    Weird that Canada’s first black prime minister hasn’t changed these racist laws

    • Fishroot [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Language law falls into provincial jurisdiction the constitution was written by Trudeau Sr which still managed to fuck over quebec

    • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      There appears to be no reliable mechanism for the federal government to challenge a provincial law, and even if there were, there'd be no political will to do it.

  • MsUltraViolet [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Imagine being the idiot hillbilly backwater equivalent of a french person (who are already cringe to begin with) and NOT being ashamed of it.