I’m thinking about the AVGN and how Nintendo makes you pay to play shitty emulator games from like 50 years ago.

Especially for the very old games like atari lol

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    2 years ago

    Atari games just objectively suck, they barely worked and you could only think they were good when there was nothing to compare it to. I'm not criticizing the people who made these games, they got paid like 2 bucks and had to make a game with pong as the only reference pint for what a game was, and it had to run on a dollar store calculator. but there's just no reason to pick up adventure for the atari 2000 unless you are interested in the history of video games.

    Once you get to the NES there are things worth playing. The original Legend of Zelda is terrible, and the second one is worse., but is interesting to play if you are big on the series. Mega Man, Metroid, and Mario mostly worked at that time. You're better off playing Metroid Zero mission instead of the original, but Mario definitely was fine the way it was, really made something special that holds up, same for Mega Man(with some frustrating exceptions). Outside of nintendo there's the original metal gear and sonis going on, which definitely show their age but are still fun and cool for some people. SNES was when games actually started being playable, sometimes even fun, on a consistent basis, but that's after the timeline you discussed.

    I am a zoomer, albeit a kinda weird one, so take all this with a grain of salt.

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      2 years ago

      Totally accurate. I grew up on NES but only Mario and a couple other games are good. Super Metroid is great but Metroid 1 is honestly fucking dog shit.

      Going way back, Pac Man and Tetris hold up and that's like fucking it.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        2 years ago

        Tetris is the youngest game you mentioned. It's younger than the SNES.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Oh yeah true, forgot. Yeah it's just Pac man then.

          And there are a few other fairly good mid 80's games that were arcade exclusives at the time back when they were 10 years ahead of home consoles, so basically Super Nintendo level technology.

          Edit: Oh I think Tetris is actually like between the NES and SNES though, also I just looked up some dates and it's like, after the Japan release but before the NA release of the console, but then the actual NA/non-Soviet release of Tetris was later

          Super Metroid is the only one there that's way after

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        2 years ago

        It is. Half the puzzles are just knowing what to do, or the game doesn't progress. They don't even require thought, you either know to burn down one random tree or you don't, or you just push every block until something happens. Enemies have waaaaay to much health for the most part, which especially bad in the last couple dungeons. guards should not have that much health and need to be hit from the correct angle and just move around randomly. It's infuriating. It was revolutionary and essential and had some really good ideas, but the execution sucked hard looking back.