I can't believe this is real lol
Throughout the debate, Destiny groaned loudly and twisted around in his chair. He put his hands on his face and rolled his eyes. The Twitch chat rolled along, arbitrarily scoring the debate and getting excited when either participant seemed to get mad.
“You’ve told me a bunch of things that capitalism isn’t. You’ve given me a bunch of random collected facts of history,” Destiny said after Wolff had given what he felt was an unsatisfactory definition of capitalism.
“Why would you talk about the history of it? That’s not relevant,” Destiny said, after asking Wolff why he refused to call the modern American democratic party a socialist party.
I've seen people IRL talk about him and Hasan. Truly the darkest of ages
Isn't this proof enough that these internet debate people have no idea what they're talking about? Richard Wolff is an adult with decades of experience studying economics. He's a genuine expert on socialism. There is no debate to be had, he's the expert by virtue of his credentials and Destiny is some guy who plays video games for a living.
And yet they argued over the basic definition of socialism, which I always see liberals do. They always want to define it as "bad thing when there's a dictator and starvation and the government does stuff" instead of anything more complex or founded in history.
I'm not watching this debate and I'm a little disappointed in Dr. Wolff or whoever set this thing up for him for agreeing to it.
I think these debate formula is pretty tired in general. Wolff did a formal debate with Glenn Loury (anthor Ivy League Economist), and they just talked past each other for an hour and a half. I don't think Wolff is particularly "good" at debates, but I also don't think the format is very enlightening.
You're right there. All debates seem to end with both parties talking past the other and no conclusions. Even a "good" debate like Foucault and Chomsky had the two reach no resolution and talk in circles.
Most people who understand economics and ideology on a deep level are either nerds at some university or organizing a party, not debating people between gaming sessions
I wish Destiny could get back to gaming. But no one wants to see him lose at StarCraft 2 over and over.