• Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I can give her the benefit of the doubt on both of these, but surely there's somebody on her team who would catch it.

    ...is what I'd say if I hadn't actually lived in Asia before.

    • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If they're in another asian country that isnt as exposed to western culture, maybe.

      south koreans should know better

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I was in Japan, and I can promise you that nobody knew or cared what English was written on their shirts, like, at all.

          • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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            2 years ago

            I'm not sure that's particularly relevant to whether 20-somethings care about understanding the meaning of random cool-looking foreign text on their clothes, but sure.

              • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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                2 years ago

                That's... no, that's not how anything works. There's a lot of assumptions and leaps of logic to get from point A to point B and they're not really in line with reality at all.

                99% of the time, when a Japanese person wears something with English writing it says something like, "I BELIEVE TRUTH is the Love that is Belong." Like, for all they know it could be some Nazi shit, or it could be like, a quote from the Unabomber, or Stalin, or Ted Bundy. But it doesn't matter because to them it's completely meaningless gibberish. It's not that they're specifically ambivalent about the possibility of it being some Nazi shit, it's just that they're ambivalent about the meaning in general.

                Nazis don't occupy anywhere near the same amount of cultural significance pretty much anywhere outside of the West. Also, most Japanese people (especially young people) aren't nearly as engaged or expressive regarding politics as Westerners.

                If an American bought a shirt with random Chinese characters saying "Cao Cao was great" you wouldn't go looking through what part of American history would cause Americans to be more sympathetic towards Cao Cao than Liu Bei, you'd think, "They probably have no fucking clue what their shirt says, and don't care."

                • Goblinmancer [any]
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                  2 years ago

                  Yep usually the stuff that is offensive is the Rising Sun flag, which is still used :japan-cool: .I know many Japanese people doesnt like imperial japan, but its still bizzare that Nazi symbols are banned in Germany while the Japanese governement is allowed to fly that flag even though Imperial japan do fucked up stuff like Unit 731, Nanjing, or the entire "comfort women" system.

    • old_goat [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Don't these pop idols have highly cultivated personas? Is she supposed to be the edgelord member of the group or what? Why do these accidents keep happening to the same girl?

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        People are often very careless about that sort of thing, so I'm inclined to chalk it up to coincidence. I suppose it could be a thing where someone knew it would generate press but also that 99% of the audience wouldn't care or see it as an honest mistake, but it could also just be an honest mistake.

        Particularly with the one in the photo, there's nothing that would cause anyone to give it a second glance unless they recognized it as being associated with Q, if they even knew what Q is. Not every person in the world is cued in to American politics enough to recognize that.