Like, it's probably more noticeable that you don't have any romantic or sexual relationships than it would be if you don't have any true, close, platonic connections. Romantic and sexual relationships have things that are very obvious and for the most part, exclusive to them, such as kissing, making out, sex, etc. Platonic relationships that are true and close are not as visible, they're more feelings on the inside (not to say that there's none of those feelings involved with romantic and sexual relationships). If you look exclusively at the activities done with a platonic friendship, it's not very different from an acquaintanceship, or an activity partner.

I've met people who claim they have friends, but they're just coworkers they talk to a bit, guys they play games with, or guys they see at the sports bar a lot. Not people who actually support each other or any true connection. Now granted, there's nothing wrong with having those acquaintanceships or activity partners, and it can be argued that they're necessary for a fulfilling life, but they're not the same as a true connection or friendship. If you've never had that or hadn't had it in a while, it can be hard to tell what that feels like.

The only way to make these connections is through social skills, which a lot of people lack. They lack social skills, so they don't make connections, platonic or romantic. Since romantic and sexual connections have more exclusive activities, it's more easy to notice them than the lack of true friends. So I'm wondering if all this talk about the lack of romance and sex is really just poor social skills.

    • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Plus the idea that sex/romance is equivalent to water is kinda iffy.

      It's not a physical need where they'd die of anything other than suicide, but it's part of most accepted hierarchies of needs,

    • Bay_of_Piggies [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I think it's better to just accept dating sucks for both men and women, but for different reasons. In my view the largest difference is that women unlike men face actual real physical danger.

      • CommunistBarbie [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        this. If a date goes badly for a man, he’s depressed. If a date goes badly for me, I wind up being assaulted or worse.

        Even then it’s not worth playing “who has it worse”, because honestly patriarchy fucking sucks for everyone, even if it is structured to benefit wealthy men.

    • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, that's why it's a metaphor and not an actual description. I'm talking about how incel types are like "I wish I'd get catcalled" when women talk about it. Both situations for online dating mean you are unlikely to find a fulfilling relationship, just as the person in the desert and the swamp both lack drinkable water. And comparing sex/romance to water is not something I invented. See: the word "thirsty"

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Plus the idea that sex/romance is equivalent to water is kinda iffy.

      humans are social animals and most of us need companionship and wither away without it. what's really the difference between dying of thirst over a few days and dying of misery over several years?

    • CommunistBarbie [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      it's weird you focused on trying to disect the metaphor instead of actually talking about her point but ok