• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
    hexbear
    27
    1 month ago

    We keep 10,000 chickens in a single huge building whose floor is literally layers of their old shit, give them just enough room to stand there and not move around, and leave it there without any environmental controls through the hottest days of the year. What do you mean disease is prevalent?

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
    hexbear
    16
    1 month ago

    I beg of you, just eat beans it's so much easier than trying to fix industrial meat agriculture. There will never be a fix for it that makes ut affordable and green.

    • AmaryllisBlues [she/her]
      hexbear
      5
      1 month ago

      Waiting on lab grown meat to go vegan is the same thing as waiting on carbon recapture to solve climate change. We can, and must, do shit now but that requires inconvenient changes to out way of life. Instead we jump on half-baked bandwagons to tech ourselves out of a miserable future because we don't want to be confronted with the idea that we might be wrong.

  • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    hexbear
    13
    edit-2
    1 month ago

    This should read as:

    Regulators: allows the meat industry to put creatures in the filthiest conditions possible

    disease starts spreading and affecting the industry

    Regulators: 😧

    • @umbrella@lemmy.ml
      hexbear
      16
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      More like:

      Meat industry: lobbies regulators and focuses on profits above all else despite every warning against it

      disease starts spreading and affecting the industry

      Meat industry: 😮

    • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
      hexbear
      15
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      I love how people love to rag on vegans talking about veganism unprovoked.

      Those damn vegans always not even being part of the conversation yet! Let's make fun of them trying to save the planet so they can show up and we can talk about how self-righteous they are.

      • AmaryllisBlues [she/her]
        hexbear
        5
        1 month ago

        I also find it amusing that anything that mentions animal rights or factory farms is assumed to be a pushy vegan. I've met dozens of people who buy grass-fed flesh because "its better for the animals". Ignoring that it isn't

    • @Zacryon@lemmy.wtf
      hexbear
      9
      1 month ago

      True, increased demand for meat is one of the driving factors of ecological malpractise as it's found in the meat industry.

      Plant based diets and a lifestyle free of animal products provide a more sustainable and ecologically beneficial alternative. As does reducing the overall world population of course.

        • @Zacryon@lemmy.wtf
          hexbear
          10
          1 month ago

          Humans need at least some meat to survive. [...] It causes long-term, serious harm to people who do not supplement their diet with at least some meat. [...] completely cutting out meat is bad for you.

          That is not correct.

          Advocating a vegan (or even vegetarian) diet is ignoring science and how our bodies function. [...] Pure veganism is a cult that ignores science, diet, and common sense.

          To the contrary. It is very much supported by science. Are you interested in the scientific literature? I'll happily share.

        • @usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
          hexagon
          hexbear
          7
          1 month ago

          The science doesn't agree with that

          It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity. Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/

          Nevertheless, several RCTs [randomized controlled trials] have examined the effect of vegetarian diets on intermediate risk factors of cardiovascular diseases (Table 1). In a meta-analysis of RCTs, Wang et al. (22) found vegetarian diets to significantly lower blood concentrations of total, LDL, HDL, and non-HDL cholesterol relative to a range of omnivorous control diets. Other meta-analyses have found vegetarian diets to lower blood pressure, enhance weight loss, and improve glycemic control to greater extent than omnivorous comparison diets (23-25). Taken together, the beneficial effects of such diets on established proximal determinants of cardiovascular diseases found in RCTs, and their inverse associations with hard cardiovascular endpoints found in prospective cohort studies provide strong support for the adoption of healthful plant-based diets for cardiovascular disease prevention

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/am/pii/S1050173818300240

          Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence. Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12778049/

  • D61 [any]
    hexbear
    2
    1 month ago

    Lower supply with a stable demand means an increase in profits. Doesn't matter what decreases the supply. I tell you what.

    Bwaaa