I do want to reiterate an apology for calling you a nonce. I've been hostile in this thread as well. It's just frustrating to be called delusional, an apologist, or a denialist of some kind by people on the internet on the basis of phrasing. I've had a friend kill themselves straight out of catholic school. Another was sent to gay conversion camp. I very nearly specialized on the history of religious bigotry at school. I'm fully aware of so much shit that's gone down I don't even talk about it to other people anymore. They either deny it (not to my face, to themselves), compartmentalize it, or their outlook becomes visibly worse. It's all exhausting.