Sorry if this is the wrong comm, but I had to get this off my chest. I am so sick and tired of dealing with bi-erasure. I am a bisexual man who is I'd say 90% attracted to women and 10% attracted to men. Best I can explain it, I am mostly attracted to women and occasionally attracted to a man. It really is that simple, but for a lot of people I might as well be explaining calculus. I understand if most straight people can't fathom it, after all they are straight. But what really irks me is when other LGBT people erase it, telling me I am "in the closet" or whatever. It makes me so damn angry because I am not in the closet, I am open about my bisexuality, yet no one believes it. I have only dated women, but everyone in my life off and online including my gf who herself is LGBTQ+ thinks I am gay. I'm so sick of it I think I'll either just tell people I am straight or become gay.

  • RION [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    when other LGBT people erase it

    Honestly it confounds me how people can behave like that. Not even from like a "wow how dare you" perspective but legitimately it's incoherent as a position. I can at least understand a straight cis person not getting it because they're never really pushed to reflect on it by society. If you're already queer in some way what's the cognitive issue with believing people can be attracted to more than one gender and in different ways?

    • Casscity [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I can at least understand a straight cis person not getting it because they’re never really pushed to reflect on it by society. If you’re already queer in some way what’s the cognitive issue with believing people can be attracted to more than one gender and in different ways?

      You nailed it, its totally baffling to me. How can you yourself be queer and just not understand it? Is it really that difficult to imagine I am attracted to people regardless of gender? To me it seems like the most simple thing in the world, "I like what I like."

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The only thing I can figure is "what no theory does to a motherfucker" is at work bc how disconnected do you have to be from queer theory and queer history to dismiss bi people?

        • BringMeExtra [xe/xem,fae/faer]
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          2 years ago

          :this:

          it's such an easy test for whether or not someone is toxic.

          similar vibe with who gets upset about the concept of bisexual lesbians.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      It's not that surprising. Try asking a grounded conventionally attractive straight woman to give online dating advice to a grounded conventionally attractive straight man and watch how the difference in lived experience just grinds the conversation to a halt teetering on the edge of mutual recriminations. The amount of times I've heard women tell men to 'try dating themselves first' (which is what they are already doing, dinner and treats etc.) is honestly hilarious.

      People, for the most part, don't really go out of their way to imagine what the lives of other people are like, and therefore are only really able to empathize with people who share common backgrounds and experiences with them. As soon as they are confronted with real, substantial differences they just start to assume that the other party is lying, or exaggerating their problem. There is just a complete lack of trust and zero communication skills. Nearly total alienation.

      Try adding in stuff like gender and sexuality and it just becomes an even more complex gradiated nightmare. Not that it should be if ignored, but it is a huge Gordian knot for modern discourse.

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Exactly! And, importantly, this social set-up is also mentally punishing for those that do their best to empathize because their genuine attempts to empathize are rebuffed with hostility or 'seen as weird', which is painful for those that are attempting genuine interactions.

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Lol, thanks. I was born with and have mastered one skill and that is multi-media observation with interpersonal and societal analysis.

              To quote the great Glenn Braca, I'd sell out anytime but nobody is buying.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Word. The complete disinterest in empathy and understanding the Other that is so common in the real world is mentally scarring. Finding out so many people are totally indifferent to the suffering of people who aren't just like them hurts, and it keeps hurting every time I encounter it.