Posting this BadEmpanda video bc of the recent Cleopatra stuff, a lot of people are bringing up Jada Pinkett Smith and afrocentrist Hotep stuff and I'm sure you can criticize it without turning into r/stupidolpol / Vaush where they try to portray afrocentrist ideas like this like something like "black supremacy" and racist, when they are directly a result of the collective experience of slavery and racism that the beliefs exist, watch it or not, and I'm sure there's other similar videos to this, feel free to link them in the comments

  • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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    Black Hebrew Israelites is literally black supremacy lol. Go take a look at what they like to shout on the streets. As for afrocentrism, it's a mixed bag. Being called "yellow jew" by the apparent true creators of the Asian race is certainly... something. Although the other side of afrocentrism is just mostly art related and harmless wishful thinking. Though I don't know anything about afrocentrism as an academic field. The ones I encountered were just history channel tier "experts" affiliated with cults.

      • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I suppose you're right. Because black people make up such a large portion of the visible history of the US, liberals, and now conservatives, have suppressed the true facts and nuances to control the narrative. As a result, you get a bunch of hucksters - tacitly approved by the state - filling the vacuum and pushing nonsense. Lenin quote, lifetimes, etc etc. Except many black figures don't even get the MLK treatment. They're just erased entirely, leaving people like Farrakhan swooping in on disillusioned people

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, the problem isn't calling out reactionary sentiment, the problem is that in the discussion of these ideas, there is often a reddit-tier tendency to create an equivalency between white supremacy and black supremacy, which is just idealist enlightened centrist garbage that completely ignores the stark material differences in the lifes of black and white people in the US, the whole historic foundations of both ideas and the entirely different role that white supremacist discourse and black supremacist discourse have in Amerika's superstructure.

          And while it's completely in order (absolutely needed, even) to call out the rampant homophobia, mysogyny and antisemitism of somebody like Farrakhan if it's done in good faith and without such false equivalencies, there is also a tendency to then expand this argument to any black radicals, almost always including the BPP. There's a reason OP mentioned :funny-clown-hammer: , he's done that exact thing in the past and did a both sides bad on the Panthers and the Klan. This issue really is a minefield. I find it highly interesting as a European, it's honestly kinda fascinating to learn about Amerika's weirder political sects, but i woudn't touch an actual hotep twitter debate with a ten foot pole.

        • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          It's almost as if one wields the power of a settler-colonial state to enact violence upon a population while the other is a fringe group that holds next to no power over state violence. Or are you denying that the Israeli state has been doing settler-colonial violence? Fucking 1 hour old account.

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