That’s frankly jaded talk. There was a sizable amount of people who got into organizing from the old sub. People last i checked who are still doing that long past having abandoned posting here. Be it as simple as canvassing for Bernie leading to other activist stuff to the fact that every leftist org IRL I’ve gone to has had at least 2 people who got active in leftism via the sub. It def had some sort of impact and there was a sense it genuinely could be used to organize for specific causes.
Was it ever gonna be a vanguard? Fuck no the people who thought that were foolish. But it DEF created a level of active real world good this site has not and frankly will not have the same ability to do.
That’s literally part of what I’m saying? We never were going to reach the level of people here the old sub had. And even if we did the amount of organization and donation based activities we are doing has ground to a stop after Bernie dropped out.
That’s frankly jaded talk. There was a sizable amount of people who got into organizing from the old sub. People last i checked who are still doing that long past having abandoned posting here. Be it as simple as canvassing for Bernie leading to other activist stuff to the fact that every leftist org IRL I’ve gone to has had at least 2 people who got active in leftism via the sub. It def had some sort of impact and there was a sense it genuinely could be used to organize for specific causes.
Was it ever gonna be a vanguard? Fuck no the people who thought that were foolish. But it DEF created a level of active real world good this site has not and frankly will not have the same ability to do.
The sub had 200k members, we have 15k - mostly re-regs. It's not some cultural degradation, it's just numbers.
That’s literally part of what I’m saying? We never were going to reach the level of people here the old sub had. And even if we did the amount of organization and donation based activities we are doing has ground to a stop after Bernie dropped out.
Alright, my bad, I thought you were saying something fundamentally changed in the culture of the site, which I don't really agree with.
I mean I’d say the culture is inherently different just down to the fact that we lost most (all) of the anarchists in the move.
And people seem less inclined to advertise go fund me’s or call for volunteers for things as before.