Aside from the machinations in place to grant power to low population areas, and the fact that those powers were conceived as a way to preserve institutions like slavery, the country being divided by states does a lot to isolate people in this country.

There's this weird state identity that means more than something more local. But it's bizarre - you tell somebody you're from California, and they have this warped image of San Francisco or Los Angeles when you're actually from some town near a blighted river or a fringe city populated by confederate larpers.

You see libs take this ignorance and run with it. They see somebody like Meatball Ron and forget that there are millions in Florida who have been disenfranchised, some since birth, and those people get written off like they had any say in their state's politics.

And now with the way that abortion and LGBT rights are being dismantled, the people who are comfortable enough to leave the state (or those who were able to access education and resources) can just throw their hands up and blame voters instead of the fucked up government that perpetuated this shit.

I just hate all this individualism where people assume you can just 'shop around' to find human decency or places to live.

In summary :amerikkka: x 50

  • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    In the US workers in one state are often literally in conflict with each other to have their basic needs met.

    :capitalist-woke: "If you raise the minimum wage I will simply move my capital across the state line."

    Edit: Meant to say workers in different states

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      "The US is a money-laundering shell game?"

      "Always has been."

      :astronaut-2::astronaut-1:

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      i don't think the capitalist posturing about moving his business down the road cares if there's a non-international border there, and if he owns enough capital he'll just buy a nafta and it doesn't matter that there's two nation-states

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The capitalist doesn't care, but you'll care. Of course, he'll get you to blame your misfortune on the workers in the other state.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    from an outside perspective, it's very weird when you say "in america, [thing] is legal/illegal/whatever" and americans say "no! that's just [state/states]!" as if that makes any difference at all

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      It's fascinating, because if you applied that nuance to gommunist China, you'd be accused of all sorts of shit.

      Travel advisories don't offer the level of hair splitting the US gets for its shit.

      "It's safe to be (minority) here, but if you cross this imaginary boundary, it is no longer safe."

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Soon the meat grinder will have the perfect slurry.

      :im-doing-my-part:

  • duderium [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I think it's just the alienation inherent to capitalism. Identifying with individual states or provinces is probably less of a thing in countries which make an effort to preserve the common good. (Things need to be organized, resources allocated in certain ways depending on geography and culture.) Where I live, people are weird about other people living the next town over. These are all just towns filled with moderately rich reactionary white boomer landlords.

  • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    you tell somebody you’re from California, and they have this warped image of San Francisco or Los Angeles when you’re actually from some town near a blighted river or a fringe city populated by confederate larpers.

    I’ve seen more confederate flags in Los Angeles than any part of the US I’ve been in. Also parts of San Diego are literal Klan strongholds

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    this is just having regional cultural differences every country of a certain size subdivides into cultural regions

    different laws in different parts of the country is weird though

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    This happens when every country reaches a certain size. Mine used to be more unified but we've grown so much in population that there's more regionalism than there used to be.