It's funny to me how even many of those who understand the problems with statements like "but not all men" or "stop complaining, at least you're not <x>" will try to minimize the very real problems atheists can face in certain places.
"But not all Christians! Liberation theology!" (generally said to people who grew up in the Bible Belt)
"You're still privileged because you can just move somewhere else."
"You were never really oppressed, you're just mad because church was boring and your parents made you go."
"You're just strawmanning Christianity (even though the kind you're arguing against is dominant where you live and the one that overwhelmingly affects you materially)"
Thankfully I don't really see this on Hexbear but I've seen it in other allegedly left places and holy shit was it obnoxious.
The overly combative atheist types that are just doing it to get a rise out of people are incredibly frustrating individuals. They're the political equivalent of "I realize something is wrong" with no theory background that will either end up critically analyzing/reading and shed reactionary takes (similar to the US radlib -> leftist progression of many people in the states- probably many people on this site went through this experience) or just they stay a reactionary who simply seeks to individualize their frustrations by lashing out at the religious nature of other people (and many of these groups ending up identifying as libertarians).
It's incredibly important for someone to emerge in the space to capture this pipeline (especially in an entity as large and globally relevant as the US) because the increasingly large non-religous population is ripe for folding these people into leftist movements (as religion and politics is increasingly intertwined). I, sadly, don't have a global perspective on this so someone else please add if you do.
That said, I genuinely do believe it's necessary to critically assess the historical damage religion has caused and the resulting power structures it creates and reinforces as well as its role in modern politics and the baggage it has brought along with it from the past. I don't think I'm capable of making that assessment as I lack the historical knowledge and evolutionary lineage of various religious beliefs to give a strong critique outside of the negative impact of modern Christianity in the US.
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It's funny to me how even many of those who understand the problems with statements like "but not all men" or "stop complaining, at least you're not <x>" will try to minimize the very real problems atheists can face in certain places.
Thankfully I don't really see this on Hexbear but I've seen it in other allegedly left places and holy shit was it obnoxious.
Lol as someone who is trans and also pretty gay, yeah fuck Christianity it did some serious psychic damage to me being raised like that
The overly combative atheist types that are just doing it to get a rise out of people are incredibly frustrating individuals. They're the political equivalent of "I realize something is wrong" with no theory background that will either end up critically analyzing/reading and shed reactionary takes (similar to the US radlib -> leftist progression of many people in the states- probably many people on this site went through this experience) or just they stay a reactionary who simply seeks to individualize their frustrations by lashing out at the religious nature of other people (and many of these groups ending up identifying as libertarians).
It's incredibly important for someone to emerge in the space to capture this pipeline (especially in an entity as large and globally relevant as the US) because the increasingly large non-religous population is ripe for folding these people into leftist movements (as religion and politics is increasingly intertwined). I, sadly, don't have a global perspective on this so someone else please add if you do.
That said, I genuinely do believe it's necessary to critically assess the historical damage religion has caused and the resulting power structures it creates and reinforces as well as its role in modern politics and the baggage it has brought along with it from the past. I don't think I'm capable of making that assessment as I lack the historical knowledge and evolutionary lineage of various religious beliefs to give a strong critique outside of the negative impact of modern Christianity in the US.