Chris Roberts' vacation fund has reached a new milestone. soypoint-2

so-true With your help we can get this up to 1 billion, which will ensure that Chris gets to visit more places and can enjoy more of the local cuisine. Oh, yeah, and it helps the game get finished sooner, of course.

In other news, they finally reworked the game's UI after 12 years of R&D, and it now looks worse than it did before. Progress. soypoint-1

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  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    6 months ago

    The kind of game Star Citizen claims to eventually be fundamentally doesn't work. An open world space sim is a concept that sounds cool in your head but if you think about how it would actually play, it's simply not good. Space is impossibly large and 99,99% empty. Even a single planet is way, way, waaaayyyy too big for an open world game, and Chris Roberts hilariously promised 100 star systems at one point.

    Star Citizen, were it to ever come out, would first and foremost be a fast travel simulator. Sitting in loading screens waiting to be teleported to the 0,01% of the ingame world where there are actual things to do and see. Flying through space in your starship would be fun for a few minutes before you press the warp speed button to get to your destination already. Because again, space is empty. There's nothing there. Planets would either be desolate wastelands or contain a single activity hub where 100% of players are at any given moment.

    There is no way to do the scale of space justice. Cyberpunk 2077 and GTA 5 are gigantic games and each take place in a single city. You can run across all of WoW in a couple hours. Star Citizen would, at best, have the same amount of content as those games but spread across 100,000,000x the surface area. Flying your ship around would become very old very quickly.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Elite Dangerous literally has a whole 1:1 scale galaxy you can explore and it kind of works. Sure it's a pretty niche game and not for everybody but people are having fun with it.

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        Elite also lets you fly from point to point if you really really want to and it is indeed terribly boring and impossibly long without some sort of FTL

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
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          6 months ago

          Or even FTFTL. I remember travelling for two hours to a star system because it wasn't far enough for fsd (big one) and I ran out of fuel

          • fox [comrade/them]
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            6 months ago

            The running joke of getting players to go to the one space station in the Proxima Centauri system to get a free spaceship. You drop in near Proxima A and need to fly to Proxima B, the other member of the binary system. But it's like a four hour trip with the in-system FTL maxed.

    • alexandra_kollontai [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      I really, really, really, really genuinely love how Outer Wilds solved this problem by just making the solar system 30 km big. Like you can just fly wherever you want. It's so good. By the way, play Outer Wilds.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      6 months ago

      Star Citizen, were it to ever come out, would first and foremost be a fast travel simulator.

      That could be even worse. Once upon a time there was a game called Naval Action, where you spend hours trying to travel because the travel was slow and there was no option of fast travel. Like it could take literally hours of real time.

      • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        I enjoyed naval action for a bit. I was really into age of sail at the time though. I'd read some Jack Aubrey and then get my ass whipped by some Dutch bastards