• KhanCipher [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      and like you know what I don’t give a shit if some dog or some kid gets killed by an endangered species

      Like jesus fucking christ, what the ever living fuck is wrong with you?

        • KhanCipher [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          How about I put it this way, if a bear was mauling my kid, it's getting its ass shot no ifs ands or buts.

          I'd also consider enacting violence on anyone having the gall to be a self righteous asshole and say that it's a good or okay thing that my kid got mauled by a bear, wolf, or a mountain lion after the fact.

      • putsthecultinculture [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Because it’s their land and they and only they have the right to implement any rules against hunting on a societal level. Imagine you’re a Native American, the government has fucked you and your people over again and again, every treaty your tribe has ever signed has been violated, hunting is one of the few rights Native Americans have, it is literally the only way many native communities can put food on the table. Who has the right to take that away? Nobody who isn’t indigenous.

        Yes from a vegan perspective allowing all forms of hunting is wrong, but exceptions have to be made for the extreme edge cases with people who come from heavily persecuted cultures that were semi nomadic in nature. To criticize a Native American for hunting is like criticizing a African American for being a business owner, like yeah the system they are perpetuating is wrong, but when systemically they have had no opportunity to grow wealth, you have to excuse bipoc people whenever they do become bourgeoisie, their class must be liquidated eventually, but under no circumstances should we seek out marginalized people first in the effort of dismantling capitalism. It’s better for leftist orgs to make inroads with gay black business owners than it is to make those same connections with rural white labor aristocrat.

        When Native Americans are ready to end hunting they all are going to need to be at a level of wealth equal to or greater than the white settlers that inhabit their lands, I’m saying you can’t bring a people to communism if they had not yet even begun capitalism. The native Americans need their own capitalists, their own businesses, their own institutions. They need to go through the horrors of capitalism not as a subjugated people but as subjugators. They need to create capitalism in order to destroy it. Right now pretty much all bipoc people in the west are in a sort of semi-feudalism stage. We can’t just jump over the capitalism stage, the best we can do is speed it up as fast as possible so we don’t linger in it very long.

        And that is a very long and mostly unrelated explanation as to why indigenous people must first abolish capitalism in order to ban hunting.