It's also worth nothing that this is true for the American late 90s wave of Ska. Ska developed from rhythms brought over by caribbean immigrants who created bands and made music along working class white people in Britain during the 70s. Ska is a follower of Jamaican rocksteady, and a musical and cultural forerunner to reggae, and other rhythms whose main deal and themes was to be explicitly anti-racist, coming from a place of working class solidarity.
So you don't think it's mostly white people, or you think it is mostly white people but they're not appropriating black culture, or you think it is mostly white people appropriating black culture but not for other white people?
I'd have to understand what you even mean by appropriating black culture in this context. The first wave of ska is presumably what you're referring to as the black culture that was appropriated. The second wave of ska (when white people got involved) was all about racial unity. The third wave, which eventually got mainstream popular for a few years, was kicked off by a bunch of snotty teenagers in the east bay who combined ska and punk.
Like yeah, the shit you heard on the radio in the late 90s and early 2000s was a bunch of white people, but what were they appropriating? And at that point, isn't all modern music appropriating black musicians? I could agree with that take a lot more, I just don't get why ska is considered a primary offender. The history of it is a genre of music pushing for unity.
Edit: additionally, most of the "style" associated with ska comes straight from London mod culture.
It's mostly white people appropriating black culture for other white people. It should be scrutinized.
It's also worth nothing that this is true for the American late 90s wave of Ska. Ska developed from rhythms brought over by caribbean immigrants who created bands and made music along working class white people in Britain during the 70s. Ska is a follower of Jamaican rocksteady, and a musical and cultural forerunner to reggae, and other rhythms whose main deal and themes was to be explicitly anti-racist, coming from a place of working class solidarity.
The story of the recording industry since it began.
You can actually just listen to black music, you're allowed
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That's not my understanding of the history of ska.
So you don't think it's mostly white people, or you think it is mostly white people but they're not appropriating black culture, or you think it is mostly white people appropriating black culture but not for other white people?
I'd have to understand what you even mean by appropriating black culture in this context. The first wave of ska is presumably what you're referring to as the black culture that was appropriated. The second wave of ska (when white people got involved) was all about racial unity. The third wave, which eventually got mainstream popular for a few years, was kicked off by a bunch of snotty teenagers in the east bay who combined ska and punk.
Like yeah, the shit you heard on the radio in the late 90s and early 2000s was a bunch of white people, but what were they appropriating? And at that point, isn't all modern music appropriating black musicians? I could agree with that take a lot more, I just don't get why ska is considered a primary offender. The history of it is a genre of music pushing for unity.
Edit: additionally, most of the "style" associated with ska comes straight from London mod culture.