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  • macabrett
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    2 years ago

    I know this is a joke post, but the second wave of ska in the 70s was a working class movement that promoted racial unity. It deserves more respect, damnit.

  • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    There's a scene in Renfield where they're at a murder scene and there is some graffiti on the walk that reads "Ska's not dead" and the cop is like "Dear god!"

    Got a laugh out of me.

      • Quizzes [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I was there, and it was popular for about six months in the late 90s. There was that "It's been one week since you looked at me" song (which is still good BTW) and then poof, gone.

        It used to be cool in the 60s when it came out. But that time will never come again. Jamaica will only celebrate gaining independence once. Now it's reggae, reggae, reggae all the time.

    • MF_COOM [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It's mostly white people appropriating black culture for other white people. It should be scrutinized.

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        It's also worth nothing that this is true for the American late 90s wave of Ska. Ska developed from rhythms brought over by caribbean immigrants who created bands and made music along working class white people in Britain during the 70s. Ska is a follower of Jamaican rocksteady, and a musical and cultural forerunner to reggae, and other rhythms whose main deal and themes was to be explicitly anti-racist, coming from a place of working class solidarity.

        • MF_COOM [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          You can actually just listen to black music, you're allowed

      • macabrett
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        2 years ago

        That's not my understanding of the history of ska.

        • MF_COOM [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          So you don't think it's mostly white people, or you think it is mostly white people but they're not appropriating black culture, or you think it is mostly white people appropriating black culture but not for other white people?

          • macabrett
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            2 years ago

            I'd have to understand what you even mean by appropriating black culture in this context. The first wave of ska is presumably what you're referring to as the black culture that was appropriated. The second wave of ska (when white people got involved) was all about racial unity. The third wave, which eventually got mainstream popular for a few years, was kicked off by a bunch of snotty teenagers in the east bay who combined ska and punk.

            Like yeah, the shit you heard on the radio in the late 90s and early 2000s was a bunch of white people, but what were they appropriating? And at that point, isn't all modern music appropriating black musicians? I could agree with that take a lot more, I just don't get why ska is considered a primary offender. The history of it is a genre of music pushing for unity.

            Edit: additionally, most of the "style" associated with ska comes straight from London mod culture.

  • RedDawn [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If you limit yourself to English language ska you’re doing a disservice to yourself, all my favorite ska is in Spanish

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    2 years ago

    White people should not be allowed to create or enjoy things. :mlk-yes: especially things they didn't invent because those are the only good things and they should not ruin them.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Look man, I just like the music that they put on the Tony Hawk games.