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I know this is a joke post, but the second wave of ska in the 70s was a working class movement that promoted racial unity. It deserves more respect, damnit.
Ska, anti-racism, working class solidarity, mozzarella sticks and the emotive dimension to the aesthetic experience of food are all cool as fuck.
Facts. IMO only the third wave of ska is really like this meme
Even then, we're really only talking about the parts of the third wave that hit the radio. And even then, you had Goldfinger doing a ton of vegan activism.
Yeah, I don't feel comfortable including ALL 3rd wave Ska in there, since a lot of them still uphold a lot of the spirit of those before them, jsut with faster and goofier tempos.
True, I am still generalizing. But the perception of this meme isn't surprising given the impact of radio and mainstream success generally on third wave ska. Radio is partly to blame for the flanderization of many genres in their time. Classic rock, grunge, bling era hip hop, dubstep, list goes on. Streaming probably isn't much better unfortunately
They'd be able to afford it if they'd stop buying all that avocado sticks!!
:AyyyyyOC: the ones-a made with only original mozzarella di bufala DOP brought all the way from napoli ayyyy.
I just wrote a whole rant about it, should've just scrolled on.
There's a scene in Renfield where they're at a murder scene and there is some graffiti on the walk that reads "Ska's not dead" and the cop is like "Dear god!"
Got a laugh out of me.
honest question, why is ska so scrutinized on the internet? I dont rly have much exposure beyond no doubt
I was there, and it was popular for about six months in the late 90s. There was that "It's been one week since you looked at me" song (which is still good BTW) and then poof, gone.
It used to be cool in the 60s when it came out. But that time will never come again. Jamaica will only celebrate gaining independence once. Now it's reggae, reggae, reggae all the time.
No Doubt is arguably more ska, also I don’t know if they count, but Bad Brains too
It's mostly white people appropriating black culture for other white people. It should be scrutinized.
It's also worth nothing that this is true for the American late 90s wave of Ska. Ska developed from rhythms brought over by caribbean immigrants who created bands and made music along working class white people in Britain during the 70s. Ska is a follower of Jamaican rocksteady, and a musical and cultural forerunner to reggae, and other rhythms whose main deal and themes was to be explicitly anti-racist, coming from a place of working class solidarity.
So you don't think it's mostly white people, or you think it is mostly white people but they're not appropriating black culture, or you think it is mostly white people appropriating black culture but not for other white people?
I'd have to understand what you even mean by appropriating black culture in this context. The first wave of ska is presumably what you're referring to as the black culture that was appropriated. The second wave of ska (when white people got involved) was all about racial unity. The third wave, which eventually got mainstream popular for a few years, was kicked off by a bunch of snotty teenagers in the east bay who combined ska and punk.
Like yeah, the shit you heard on the radio in the late 90s and early 2000s was a bunch of white people, but what were they appropriating? And at that point, isn't all modern music appropriating black musicians? I could agree with that take a lot more, I just don't get why ska is considered a primary offender. The history of it is a genre of music pushing for unity.
Edit: additionally, most of the "style" associated with ska comes straight from London mod culture.
If you limit yourself to English language ska you’re doing a disservice to yourself, all my favorite ska is in Spanish
I tell spotify to give me some japanese ska and it just plays a bunch of English or non ska bullshit 🙄
There's some ska playlists on YT that are seemingly a joke.
Check out this one it’s about how being proletarian is a mark of pride and the enemy is the boss, https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=CaSHIpQIj7g&feature=share
This band is fun also https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=CQzY2JN-FwA&feature=share
Not a bit, but Venezuelans have something like a mozzarella stick had a child with a pig in a blanket. It's a piece of cheese wrapped in a flaky crust and then fried. It's really good.
Some of my favorite ska songs are by a Bosnian avant-garde dub rock group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOqxarVWKRs
Japanese ska is a joy to listen to. Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra is some next level shit.
White people should not be allowed to create or enjoy things. :mlk-yes: especially things they didn't invent because those are the only good things and they should not ruin them.
as long as they're skanking up to the order counter, then i'll allow it
