She said i should see someone who had experience with "extremism" and "racism"

I had to fight the urge to call her a PMC radlib

  • mar_k [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    expanding that statement to cover all racial discussion in society

    So you'll dismiss something as "engaging in race theory" in some contexts but not others? How do you decide what you get to dismiss as racial theory and what you don't? You wouldn't have any problems with a statement like "white people are at a major advantage because of their race"?

    • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I specifically have a problem with the ironic shitflinging like 'mayocide now', 'I hate whites'.

      I understand that whites are not a race. I understand it's not coming from a place of real hatred.

      But that that sort of discourse is specifically meant to be an ironic version of racism, and that shit bothers me. Racism is so horrible even an ironic version of it is legitimizing the underlying ideology.

      Discussion of racial issues such as they appear in a society dominated by racial ideologies is 100% kosher, and necessary to cope with an attack upon a racialized group of innocent people. In an ideal world none of that would be necessary, but this isn't an ideal world. It's a hateful, horrible one full of bigoted racists.

      • mar_k [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I wanna get where you're coming from but I don't really see it as that deep or causing any real harm.

        Racism is so horrible even an ironic version of it is legitimizing the underlying ideology.

        Would you say poking at cis people reinforces transphobia, poking at straight people reinforces homophobia, poking at Evangelicals reinforces Islamophobia/anti-Semitism, etc?

        • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It’s partly an emotional reaction. When we are joking about genociding a group or sterilizing them, I have a visceral reaction like I’m reading a fascist website. The emotional side of me just doesn’t understand why we even want to talk like that. It’s horrific.

          It’s also logical in part - engaging in that sort of speech implies that such things are acceptable or things to be joked about. That sort of suffering deserves respect from leftists. Would you joke about white genocide with a holocaust survivor?

          Further it implies races are things to be divided up and are real on some level.

          Personally I’m gay. I don’t engage in hating straight people.

          I focus my hatred on bigots. I focus my hatred on conservatives.

          Ultimately, I agree the harm is not that great. I’m not reporting comments or asking for that speech to be banned. But it’s not a viewpoint I have seen expressed before and I felt the need to share it.

        • Abraxiel
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          2 years ago

          poking at Evangelicals reinforces Islamophobia/anti-Semitism, etc?

          New Atheism certainly panned out that way.