No, I still won’t watch streams, this guy is a great poster though

https://twitter.com/badempanada/status/1657263485397483524?s=46&t=DBqOmL5V_w7cid09gQz_FQ

  • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    I get such a major disconnect because it seems like some people don’t understand what growing up in some places is like. Selling drugs is not a better alternative to joining the military, being in gangs and that life is scary but also fucking pathetic and miserable. You’re a detriment to your family and only incur more trauma to everyone you know.

    I grew up poor too and just cause you're poor doesn't mean you're not a wannabe cop.

    • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Not everyone is going to come the same conclusions as you, ive also met a lot of people who say theyre poor but grew up in a rich area so they still got the benefits of a good public school and a healthy community, none of this is black and white

      I dont get how you can grow up with other poor people, know them and judge their decisions all the while being knowledgable of capitalist critique. It makes me suspicious.

      • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        But you certainly made it so. Selling drugs, being in a gang, etc. I certainly knew some time drug dealers. Props to them for not murdering people...and like on that logic, if that's your logic, killing people for the state or killing people for yourself. And realistically, the way they sell it, killing people for the state is killing people for yourself. I don't see how one is superior to the other except that not everyone dealing drugs is trying to kill someone but everyone signing up for the military is trying to help kill people.

        I dont get how you can grow up with other poor people, know them and judge their decisions all the while being knowledgable of capitalist critique. It makes me suspicious.

        Your suspicion makes me entirely skeptical. Poor people signing up to kill poor people should bring major shame. And while certainly there should be forgiveness since being a Marxist is undoubtedly a death wish, if you genuinely wish to bring about the revolution. I don't think you get there being all woe is me about what the choice that is made by fellow poor people. It was ultimately a choice to enlist.

        • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          The military doesnt sell it as killing people. Its defending your country and vague romanticized notions. This is the disconnect I get, can you really not take off the lefty lens for just a second? Most people don't have that kind of analysis even as adults.

          I smell bs please stop talking to me

          • Abraxiel
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            1 year ago

            People are really constantly going, "I'm built different, I would simply never get caught up in a big lie, because I'm a good person. Anyone who does anything bad does it because they're inferior ethical beings, an intrinsic and inextricable quality."

            • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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              1 year ago

              Love to simply helplessly get "caught up" in a "big lie" that coincidentally also promises economic benefits to me if I follow along with it without challenging it.

              There's no connection between my apparent lack of agency and insight and the fact that it personally benefits me.

              (This is not to suggest that propaganda or indoctrination plays 0 part in this, but that theres a direct incentive to buy into this, and that both the big lie itself and the concept of the big lie provides an excuse and license to do so.)

            • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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              1 year ago

              They literally did that though. At least the buddy joined the military and not a gang. What's a gang supposed to be doing again?

              • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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                1 year ago

                Im actually built different from all other poor people, theres no path, set of circumstances or situation possible for me where I joined the military. Also being poor is actually a choice, if you stay poor it's 100% your fault

          • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            I don't think you like my reply because it implies that there were poor people out there who made the opposite choice and did not need leftism to make that decision. You used poverty as a shield and now you use leftism as a shield to discredit my background and choices. And the way you told the story, it makes sense. You frames it as a being better morally than some other acts.