Are there other hobbyists that literally go out of their way to shoot themselves in the foot every chance they get? It's legit baffling.
Are there other hobbyists that literally go out of their way to shoot themselves in the foot every chance they get? It's legit baffling.
Are Warhammer 40k players considered gamers?
Otherwise, vinyl collectors
At least Poorhammer is cool enough to tell their audience to just print their minis
tbh anyone buying shit straight from GW is a massive idiot. for the price of one GW box you can get a printer and resin and print many whole ass armies for the same price with the many bootleg 1-1 models out there. or you could just play one page rules with paper cut outs :shrug-outta-hecks:
and all the absolute bootlicking dweebs that say resin is of poorer quality, there is proof that GW is 3d printing one off models en masse to save on price. they literally could be selling the STLs but rubes are keeping their dumb model afloat
I asked my brother (he plays 40k) why the players don't just use tokens and apparently official gaming places won't allow them and most of the players (who did actually buy them) won't play against players using tokens.
people hate prints too. but i hate those evil bastards and if they try to pick up my minis to weigh them and feel if they are fake i pull out my :the-doohickey: for violating my rights as an esteemed owner of super special plastic toy soldiers
also its funny. i pointed to my whole necron army once and said 'half are gw and half are printed, figure out which ones'. and the guy made this big show moutfeeling my models and claiming which ones were GW and which were printed, and then i told him they were all printed and i played them at many tournaments without even the official gw representatives from the UK noticing :troll:
There are fucking TOURNAMENTS???
There are, and it's very funny because the game really is pretty poorly designed and can't be that competitive. GW themselves have said in the past that they make cool minis (:citations-needed:) first and rules second.
oh but this next edition will be the one we promise give us your money paypig
IIRC the Index Period of 8th was actually pretty decent balance-wise, so we might get lucky and see a repeat, but it will inevitably go to shit once they start printing codices.
yes but balance doesn't sell models
I'm still shocked anyone puts up with GWs shit, but I know it's because they have a death grip on the game shops where people socialize.
its pretty unbalanced, i find it fun though. top meta armies have 60% winrates at times which in a competitive video game would be generally unacceptable for any balance team.
Oh I find it fun, but as someone who enjoys "casual competitive" (using matched play or tempest rules, but not super meta lists) it can really struggle. This is made much worse when the game is only even remotely balanced at 2k unless someone deliberately nerfs their own list, which means you need quite the investment of time and money to actually be able to play the "proper game".
Also stratagems are bad.
I've never played 40k, but one thing that kind of sounds unfortunate about it is that the point buy is apparently low enough that many of the giant mech units basically almost never see play (or so I've heard)
Titans (the $750-$2000 giant mechs that almost nobody has) never see play except in custom games or the entire separate faster-paced large-scale game called Apocalypse, but Knights (and Chaos Knights) are dedicated factions of pretty-big mechs.
For comparison, the cheapest titan, the warhound, is 2000 points, which is the size of an entire army for the standard game, while the most expensive, the warlord, is 5500. Meanwhile, the smaller knights range from 400-ish for the gallant to 600-ish for the crusader, and you would typically run several smaller armigers that are around 150 points each as well, so you can cram some mechs into standard games.
Frankly the bigger problems are the price tag and that the build quality of the titans (which are resin, not plastic) is notoriously shit.
I feel like a game where each side fields basically an imperator titan (and many assorted mechs) and its equivalent from any other faction (I think only chaos and orks have something that big?) would be awesome to watch. I saw an imperator 'mini' once (picture only) and that thing is gigantic (and I can imagine a pain to move around).
Unfortunately realistically speaking.....40k is probably kind of dull to watch, and listening to both sides play the game....it doesn't sound fun to play either.
The Mechs are unbalaned as hell. Either they go first and nuke half your army, or they go second and you focus them down on turn 1. The way the game is structured is a mess.
There are tournaments for every competitive game imaginable and quite a few you wouldn't believe if I told you about them.
Tbh if you wanted to play 40k without using minis you should probably just play it on Tabletop Sim. Not to mention most people enjoy the hobby part of building and painting their little army men. Proxies are pretty frequently accepted, though to what degree varies group by group.
simply obtain xi's glorious recasts
Not played in years but tokens kinda make scenery pointless back when I did. You needed to know if the model was in full, partial or no cover and hit rolls were based on that. A lot of my tactical play invovled popping out from behind trees and taking fortified areas. Rules might have changed tho idk
True LoS is still a thing, but in reality most things can either go base-to-base LoS or are a vehicle in which case you just need a rectangle.
It's the same for printed magic cards. You can get basically 1:1 replicas of magic cards for waaaaay cheaper than their market price but dipshit elitist gamers don't allow it because wizards of the coast needs to please their investors
That's the same toxic bullshit behind bullying "defaults" in Fortnite. :disgost:
The only Fortnite skin I have is the og skull trooper so now I get to be the bully
Oh and the galaxy skin you got for buying a note 9
No unpainted minis!
Is a war cry heard since the 60s.
And since I resin print in my bedroom I maintain a nice body high throughout the day
tbh could probably print most things on an fdm if youre afraid of resin, its just a very good fdm for small minis will probably be more expensive than resin. regardless its cheaper to print on an fdm than resin and cheaper than gw no matter what. just make sure you have a .1mm nozzle
Even if 3d printing isn't an option and you don't know about recasters, just buying from any online store anywhere in the country should get you a 15% discount minimum.
I know it’s the end of the edition, but the 9th edition starter pack is like 43 bucks right now
Sadly I am a Guard player so I just get the (awful) Combat Patrol.
If recasters are the problem then play a faction that doesn't use them like orks or zergs, or even put like a little staff on a necromorph and boom, recaster (idk I don't play 40k)
Recasters are people who make recasts which is to say they make a silicon mold using official minis and then hand cast the mold in resin, creating identical copies. They're usually half-price or less, though it varies, and the quality tends to be lower. Also they're typically based out of countries that don't care about copyright law, so China, Russia, and (formerly) Ukraine.
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yeah i find it fun. much more than the painting and stuff
There is so much cool shit happening on the 3d printing subreddits. People are just like "Well I was going to buy one forge world Knight but instead I bought like 4 liters of resin and now I have a 35,000 point army that I have to rent a truck to bring to the game store!@
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I collect vinyl but only cuz I like having album art on my walls and it supports the musicians more