good post

https://twitter.com/BadEmpanada/status/1661212920938737665

  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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    I do care about the victims of imperialism. I think restorative justice does much, much, much more for them then retributive justice does.

    ETA: Its not about caring for their lives, its about what form of justice is actually useful and effective.

    • artificialset [she/her, fae/faer]
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      1 year ago

      No, it clearly is caring about their lives for you. You've said as much already. The lengths that western leftists will go to defend imperialists is absurd

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Don't fucking assume shit about me. I did not say that anywhere. Do not presume to know my brain and what is going on inside it. As an autistic gaslighting victim I will not accept it. I own my brain and only I own my brain and the contents thereof.

        What I said is what I said. This is about justice, and how to actually carry it out. I dont care about their lives as individuals, I care about human lives generally. And I care about the right way to perform justice.

        ETA: Even from a practicality angle mass murdering 19 million military veterans with a bullet to the head is an absurd proposal lol. You can want it all you want but that isn't happening and its fucking silly to suggest it. Like if the revolutionary state really wanted to carry that out... fuck idk I wouldn't betray the revolution about it but I'd be vocally advocating against it. Mass murder is no joke. Eastern Germany didnt do it to the Wermacht. Even Soviet killings of Nazi POWs weren't indiscriminate.

        • artificialset [she/her, fae/faer]
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          1 year ago

          I don't have to assume shit, you've said as much here. If you don't wanna come off as an imperialist apologist, then stop doing it. I wholeheartedly believe this is what is to be done to the imperialists and that's because I don't downplay their choice involvement in the most destructive imperialist force. You're going to absurd lengths to defend them.

        • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          ETA: Even from a practicality angle mass murdering 19 million military veterans with a bullet to the head is an absurd proposal lol. You can want it all you want but that isn’t happening and its fucking silly to suggest it. Like if the revolutionary state really wanted to carry that out… fuck idk I wouldn’t betray the revolution about it but I’d be vocally advocating against it. Mass murder is no joke. Eastern Germany didnt do it to the Wermacht. Even Soviet killings of Nazi POWs weren’t indiscriminate.

          Yea, executing 19 million veterans is impractical but also the idea that you will not execute any of the 19 million veterans is also impractical. I guess I'm a centrist.

          I guess what comes off as Anti Imperialist apologia is the quick run to assuming that Leftists will not run trials or be capable of en masse winning these trials to execute the enemies of the revolution, The crimes has been commited and in many cases well documented.

          Personally, I don't think executing your enemies or allowing them to live is revolutionary. The act that is revolutionary is the one that advances the situation in the current moment in time. Nicaragua doesn't have the death penalty but it has prisons. Regardless, it deported many enemies of the revolution despite them already being sentenced to prison sentence.

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