This shit has seriously gone on too long. People who continue to cling to the "10,000 dead crushed by tanks hosed i to the gutter" bs are cranks. It's jews control the banks, chemtrails, the earth is flat, the moon isn't real level of crank shit and unless you're feeling very indulgent and someone is asking in good faith it can be dismissed as equally serious to that kind of crank shit.
"China is bad country that massacred people who wanted democracy. I also hope the police can shut down the encampments at universities because it's illegal"
I wish liberals at least formed some type of ideology instead of regurgitate half baked ideas they heard somewhere.
They exist in a blissful eternal present where there is no context, no action and reaction, only the gentle lapping of waves and the shade of the coconut tree