Patsocs only exist online as well. Like 20 people show up in any meatings or stuff. And in online existance something like Vaush is way more prominent and and of course in real life/acedmic/ political sphere influence an anti-communist anarchist like Chomsky and others to a lesser degree and to a lesser degree have been orders and orders of magnitude more popular and impactfull than any of these people in the convo and even defined the convo and intellectual approach against communist from the left for decades. And still i think irl you would find many more anti-ML people in orgs like the DSA whether they call themselves anarchists/syndicalists/libertarian socialists.
That's pretty true. Caleb Maupin does get the platform of CPUSA and unless I'm mistaken Jackson Hinckle was on Tucker's show at least once. They get some presence in the real world which I've never seen the likes of Vaush get, yet there's also people like Chomsky who have had orders of magnitude more sway than anyone else I listed. I think I may be a little brain poisoned by the internet so I had that blind spot.
The Tucker appearences just seem to me like they were fishing for people to just come and shit on the dems and their "warmongering" from non GoP "perspectives" and since the DSA/Vaushite activists dont even have that stance or would refuse to even go they can only call up niche weirdos like Hinckle or whatever their name is to show smth
Right, but you don't see Vaush showing up to Rachel Maddow's show to rant about tankies. Maybe reactionaries are just quicker to bring alternative people to the table for the veneer of being antiestablishment, while liberals have embraced their hegemonic position so bringing anyone who doesn't fit into the tight window of respectability will never get their 15 minutes?
Also i feel like lib media do some kind of background check and care a bit about optics so if they saw any discourse online thought some articles or posts would have been made of them "inviting an alleged pedophile streamer" . And even "we should invite a poltical twitch streamer named vaush" would feel like embarrassing proposal within mainstream media. Like Dore has a radio show and is a comentator i guess, Mauphin and Hinckie or whatever can be described as political organizers or activists . So its easier to get the ok
Vaush wouldn't serve a useful purpose. The libs don't care about the Tankies that actually exist, they're shadow-boxing with bernie supporters they made up in their minds who ruined Hillary's perfect election and are secretly undermining the holy and glorious purpose of the democratic party that would definitely fix things if they weren't such gosh darn small beans. Having some weird dude who claims to be a socialist rant about tankies that no one who wantches MSNBC had ever heard of :walter-shock: wouldn't contribute to her narrative or her ratings.
Patsocs only exist online as well. Like 20 people show up in any meatings or stuff. And in online existance something like Vaush is way more prominent and and of course in real life/acedmic/ political sphere influence an anti-communist anarchist like Chomsky and others to a lesser degree and to a lesser degree have been orders and orders of magnitude more popular and impactfull than any of these people in the convo and even defined the convo and intellectual approach against communist from the left for decades. And still i think irl you would find many more anti-ML people in orgs like the DSA whether they call themselves anarchists/syndicalists/libertarian socialists.
That's pretty true. Caleb Maupin does get the platform of CPUSA and unless I'm mistaken Jackson Hinckle was on Tucker's show at least once. They get some presence in the real world which I've never seen the likes of Vaush get, yet there's also people like Chomsky who have had orders of magnitude more sway than anyone else I listed. I think I may be a little brain poisoned by the internet so I had that blind spot.
The Tucker appearences just seem to me like they were fishing for people to just come and shit on the dems and their "warmongering" from non GoP "perspectives" and since the DSA/Vaushite activists dont even have that stance or would refuse to even go they can only call up niche weirdos like Hinckle or whatever their name is to show smth
Right, but you don't see Vaush showing up to Rachel Maddow's show to rant about tankies. Maybe reactionaries are just quicker to bring alternative people to the table for the veneer of being antiestablishment, while liberals have embraced their hegemonic position so bringing anyone who doesn't fit into the tight window of respectability will never get their 15 minutes?
Also i feel like lib media do some kind of background check and care a bit about optics so if they saw any discourse online thought some articles or posts would have been made of them "inviting an alleged pedophile streamer" . And even "we should invite a poltical twitch streamer named vaush" would feel like embarrassing proposal within mainstream media. Like Dore has a radio show and is a comentator i guess, Mauphin and Hinckie or whatever can be described as political organizers or activists . So its easier to get the ok
That's true too. Fair points all around.
Vaush wouldn't serve a useful purpose. The libs don't care about the Tankies that actually exist, they're shadow-boxing with bernie supporters they made up in their minds who ruined Hillary's perfect election and are secretly undermining the holy and glorious purpose of the democratic party that would definitely fix things if they weren't such gosh darn small beans. Having some weird dude who claims to be a socialist rant about tankies that no one who wantches MSNBC had ever heard of :walter-shock: wouldn't contribute to her narrative or her ratings.
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Caleb Maupin and Jackson Hinckle are also piss babies, I doubt that's the only reason.
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That's definitely part of the reason. Then again, lib media will have people like Xeni Jardin on. They don't mind trainwrecks.