in that case, i hope your beliefs about them are real, as if their saying anarchists really is just is a meme shorthand for anarcho-bidenists and not indicative of a site-wide trend of severe sectarianism, then federation would simply be a case of using more accurate terminology
i don't personally buy it when you have the site admin posting stuff like this about anarchists and literally replying "anarchism is not a socialist ideology" to someone saying that they, like you, respect nuanced anarchists
Meh, the Dune Fox can stay in his domain then, but to be clear what I mean is not that X is what those posters are "really saying", rather that they are incorrect but that the change that would make them correct is both extremely simple and unavoidably obvious to someone who has only seen lemmy anarchists (and irl punks, sometimes, maybe) now seeing Hexbear anarchists, and most of them can thereby stand to modify their behavior and many, I believe, will even modify their thoughts. Those who don't can be banned, but are a limited number. Again, I assert to you that people, those alienated from society most of all, are often quite malleable, and in this case enculturation can very easily work in our favor.
i'm still a tad hesitant about what I've seen, but you make good points and have more experience with lemmygrad and its userbase than I do, so you've convinced me that federation with lemmygrad could work with a heavy hand to make sure it doesn't negatively affect hexbear's anarchist users
the first time I found out lemmygrad even existed was from a few months back when a new user who said they were from lemmygrad imploded all over a thread after a poster here said they enjoyed pornographic video games and sex positivity (aka not taped porn from the porn industry). the new user then started to link nofap threads from lemmygrad, and then deleted their account afterwards it was a very moment
right off the bat my first experience of the site was threads about dudes trying not to zerk it (as a gay dude the religious guilt energy in these threads were nauseating), and then i clicked to the main page and saw some genzedong looking anti-anarchist memes (which in retrospect probably was actually from c/genzedong) so I really got the worst possible first impression of the place which I see now probably ain't too representative of how it is normally lmao, and that instantly made the site and talk of federating with it unfairly to me
in that case, i hope your beliefs about them are real, as if their saying anarchists really is just is a meme shorthand for anarcho-bidenists and not indicative of a site-wide trend of severe sectarianism, then federation would simply be a case of using more accurate terminology
i don't personally buy it when you have the site admin posting stuff like this about anarchists and literally replying "anarchism is not a socialist ideology" to someone saying that they, like you, respect nuanced anarchists
Meh, the Dune Fox can stay in his domain then, but to be clear what I mean is not that X is what those posters are "really saying", rather that they are incorrect but that the change that would make them correct is both extremely simple and unavoidably obvious to someone who has only seen lemmy anarchists (and irl punks, sometimes, maybe) now seeing Hexbear anarchists, and most of them can thereby stand to modify their behavior and many, I believe, will even modify their thoughts. Those who don't can be banned, but are a limited number. Again, I assert to you that people, those alienated from society most of all, are often quite malleable, and in this case enculturation can very easily work in our favor.
i'm still a tad hesitant about what I've seen, but you make good points and have more experience with lemmygrad and its userbase than I do, so you've convinced me that federation with lemmygrad could work with a heavy hand to make sure it doesn't negatively affect hexbear's anarchist users
the first time I found out lemmygrad even existed was from a few months back when a new user who said they were from lemmygrad imploded all over a thread after a poster here said they enjoyed pornographic video games and sex positivity (aka not taped porn from the porn industry). the new user then started to link nofap threads from lemmygrad, and then deleted their account afterwards it was a very
moment
right off the bat my first experience of the site was threads about dudes trying not to zerk it (as a gay dude the religious guilt energy in these threads were nauseating), and then i clicked to the main page and saw some genzedong looking anti-anarchist memes (which in retrospect probably was actually from c/genzedong) so I really got the worst possible first impression of the place which I see now probably ain't too representative of how it is normally lmao, and that instantly made the site and talk of federating with it unfairly
to me